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does anybody know the hammerprice/highest bid on J-528 @Rm auction?
If I got it right, highest bid (no sale?) on J463 @Mecum auction was $550k
www.mecum.com/lot-detail/CA0815 ... g-Model-J/
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JOEL GIVNER wrote: Morphy Auction
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here is a link to that auction
www.morphyauctions.com/auctions/ ... e-DenverPA
RM offers J-528 at its Pebble Beach auction.
Does anybody already read the cars history summary on the RM auction site?
Especially this part <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> <em>"Bob Roller, the sole survivor today of the men who worked on the car for Mr. Schulzinger, is still proud that the finished Duesenberg could achieve 140 mph over a measured mile along a straight stretch of road."</em>
Here is the link:
www.rmsothebys.com/mo15/monterey ... nn/1076064
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J-147, chassis 2168 is being auctioned by Auctions American at the Auburn sale. This car has a memorable place in my history, as it is the 1st Duesenberg I ever drove when it was for sale in 2006. I strongly considered buying J147, but ended up passing on it. Back then it was black and in need of restoration. Now it is silver and apparently has been fully restored. A very handsome car in my humble opinion.
www.auctionsamerica.com/events/f ... &category=
Also I saw a recent ad that J192, the unrestored survivor Katherine Hedburn car is being offered this fall, but I can't find the auction info now.
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Mecum Houston has J463/2480 dual cowl replica body
Mecum published an auction-price of $500K for that car
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Steve Derus wrote: Five cars coming up
Gooding Amelia Island has J514/2543 SJ Rollston "high top" limo auction estimate $1.5 million
RM Amelia Island has J487/2336 LeBaron dual cowl, auction estimate $1.4 million
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it looks like that J514/2543 SJ Rollston @Gooding was not sold. Does anyone knows the highest bid on that car?
RM pubished a selling price about $ 1.155 Million for the LeBaron DCP
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Raydon R."Don"Thompson owned it when I first saw it and it was being
revived,not restored.We drove it as a king size hot rod with no body on
the frame like Leno does now.That LeBaron body didn't add much weight to the car and it was fast even after we reinstalled it. Don sold it to a man in Maryland and I think his name was Blash. It was also the first one I used a wrench on when I installed the intake manifold. Sixty four years have gone by since that warm summer day and the random encounter with one of the premier cars of the world. A long and interesting run.
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Gooding Amelia Island has J514/2543 SJ Rollston "high top" limo auction estimate $1.5 million
RM Amelia Island has J487/2336 LeBaron dual cowl, auction estimate $1.4 million
RM Fort Worth in May has J553/2582 SJ Bohman&Schwartz town car, auction estimate $4.5 million without reserve
and also J395/2414 Murphy convertible coupe without reserve
Mecum Houston has J463/2480 dual cowl replica body
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The car itself was fairly nice. not to many issues that i could see. Granted that being a rebody hurts its value. it does have a interesting story on he factory switching bodies and being a factory demo car.
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The car itself was fairly nice. not to many issues that i could see. Granted that being a rebody hurts its value. it does have a interesting story on he factory switching bodies and being a factory demo car.
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Steve Derus wrote: J562/2592 was a no sale at Barrett Jackson, high bid $700k
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$700k for a supercharged La Grande DCP sounds not so much money for it.
Is there something "wrong" with the car, like a very poor condition or a lot of replica-parts?
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Duesenberg J-523 LaGrande DCP is sold today for a hammerprice of $1.15 million (estimate $1.4 to 1.6 million) @AuctionsAmerica in Auburn
www.auctionsamerica.com/events/f ... &category=
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Chris Summers wrote: J-173 was a no-sale, per Randy.
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I looks like there are very few Model J's offered at the Monterey auction circus in August.
one 1929 Murphy Conv. Sedan @Gooding www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1929-d ... e-sedan-2/
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does anybody know the hammer-price/highest bid of 1929 Murphy Conv. Sedan @Goodings monterey auction?
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Bob Roller wrote: IS that car J391? I saw it in the ACD Museum sitting in the back and some one had tried to jack it up by placing the jack under the running board.
This one looks different to me,maybe the trunk.
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Hello Bob,
the car @Gooding auction is (as Randy posted) J-173, looks like that car is a (almost unrestored?) survivor.
The ex T. Powers car @Mecum is J-391
That car looked in the past different to today, in the time of T. Powers ownership it has a darker paint and no roof-top folded "on deck".
I saw a black and white picture of that car only with a kind of persenning that covered a "gap" (rooftop compartment?) between the rear seats and the trunk.In that days the car maybe has had a hidden roof-top folded in a compartment or there was no roof-top installed... I don't know.
EDIT: It has had a persenning, instead a folded roof-top, as you can see on the fabulous Duesenberg-Site of Jack Curtright
www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2315.htm
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Hello,
Mecum published that this car is sold for a price of $1.425 million
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Bob Roller wrote: IS that car J391? I saw it in the ACD Museum sitting in the back and some one had tried to jack it up by placing the jack under the running board.
This one looks different to me,maybe the trunk.
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Hello Bob,
the car @Gooding auction is (as Randy posted) J-173, looks like that car is a (almost unrestored?) survivor.
The ex T. Powers car @Mecum is J-391
That car looked in the past different to today, in the time of T. Powers ownership it has a darker paint and no roof-top folded "on deck".
I saw a black and white picture of that car only with a kind of persenning that covered a "gap" (rooftop compartment?) between the rear seats and the trunk.In that days the car maybe has had a hidden roof-top folded in a compartment or there was no roof-top installed... I don't know.
EDIT: It has had a persenning, instead a folded roof-top, as you can see on the fabulous Duesenberg-Site of Jack Curtright
www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2315.htm
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This one looks different to me,maybe the trunk.
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and a Model J Murphy Torpedo Berline Convertible at a time owned by the movie-actor Tyrone Power
www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detai ... 114-174286
B.t.w. I have learned that T. Power is the father of Romina Power, in europe she was (together with her former husband Albano) a very popular singer with serveral No. 1 Chart-Hits in the early 1980ies
Here is a medley
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I looks like there are very few Model J's offered at the Monterey auction circus in August.
one 1929 Murphy Conv. Sedan @Gooding www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1929-d ... e-sedan-2/
and Mecum starts a new attempt to sell the Powers Duesey
Thats it so far...
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Thanks Steve, I remember it being in the ACD museum around 80-81 when I was working there. (sorry, not a fan of European coachwork <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> ) Others were ga-ga about it, and it was a nice car, but not me.Steve Derus wrote: Yes, that is correct. Bill Harrah restored it in a burnt orange/dark brown color scheme. I saw it in the Harrah Collection in Sparks NV back in about 1966.
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in my opinion that car has one of the "better" looking european bodies (there are not many that I like). But I love the "original" Duesenberg-Style-Grille and I think that car would even look better with a Duesey-Grille.
Here are some pictures of that car: www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2254.htm
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landmark wrote: Hello,
J-148 will be offered at the Paris Retromobile auction by artcurial.
Estimate 600-800k Euro.
www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullcat ... 56&image=3 You will find the description in english tongue, underneath the french one.
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artcurial marked that car as unsold. Does anybody know the highest bid on that car?
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You're not old enough to have those kind of memory lapses.
I was under the impression that particular car was back in
Switzerland. I'm glad it isn't.
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I'll look in the file when I'm back at work Monday and see if it's in there. I don't remember it but may find it.
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The photo of the car in the "burnt orange" color scheme is flattering. When I saw it first hand in those colors at Harrah's collection I remember thinking it was rather unbecoming. Personally I think the blue scheme compliments the lines of the car better. Either way, a lovely car.
I think I remember giving a photo I took of the car to Chris Summers.
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Steve Derus wrote: The car you refer to is 2254 I think still owned by Sam and Emily Mann in NJ.
I saw this car only one time and that was as Harrah was finishing its restoration. I was shocked to see the Duesenberg emblem on the grille, I guessed it to be a Delahaye at first glance.
Hello,
in my opinion that car has one of the "better" looking european bodies (there are not many that I like). But I love the "original" Duesenberg-Style-Grille and I think that car would even look better with a Duesey-Grille.
Here are some pictures of that car: www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2254.htm
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I saw this car only one time and that was as Harrah was finishing its restoration. I was shocked to see the Duesenberg emblem on the grille, I guessed it to be a Delahaye at first glance.
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don't feel like I should say what the amount was.
It is NOT one of the better looking Duesenbergs and I agree with AJ on the modifications he mentioned.
There was another "J"with a Graber body that was spectacular and it isn't the one shown in Elbert's book. On this one,the only external Duesenberg features are the wheels and the instrument panel.Is it in the USA or somewhere else?
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I've seen similar bodies on Renault Vivasix and Packard Twelve chassis (I think the Packard's body was moved from a Renault).
I like how the French auction catalogue gets much more excited about the legitimacy of the body than the Duesenberg chassis underneath.
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J-148 will be offered at the Paris Retromobile auction by artcurial.
Estimate 600-800k Euro.
www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullcat ... 56&image=3 You will find the description in english tongue, underneath the french one.
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Bob Roller wrote: Matt,
About 60 years ago,Jack Irwin and I installed a clutch in this car, J-357.It had about 20,000 miles on it then. This was a nice but slightly neglected original.The picture in Elbert's first edition shows it as a car in decline but back then,7:50x19 tires were nearly unobtainable and what few there were
had been around too long and were dry rotted.
I have driven it several times and it was a good running,good driving Duesenberg.
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Hello Bob,
I always appreciate your postings, they bring the history of some cars much closer to me.
I know which two (Elbert Book) photos you mentioned.
One of them is aswell published on the Curtright-website www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2388.htm
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The red plastic or naugahyde or dog hide was not in this car when we worked on it. I saw it with the red stuff for the first time in 1986 and
had no idea it was a seat cover. Good idea IMHO.
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J-357 is going to auction with its original upholstery uncovered for the first time in...many, many years. (The red plastic upholstery installed when Bob knew the car was actually seat covers for the original black leather.)
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It was a restyled running board for sure.
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About 60 years ago,Jack Irwin and I installed a clutch in this car, J-357.It had about 20,000 miles on it then. This was a nice but slightly neglected original.The picture in Elbert's first edition shows it as a car in decline but back then,7:50x19 tires were nearly unobtainable and what few there were
had been around too long and were dry rotted.
I have driven it several times and it was a good running,good driving Duesenberg.
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