- Posts: 21
- Thank you received: 0
Brake Lights: how about LEDs?
- Red Brick
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
Rendering Error in layout Message/Item: Kunena\Forum\Libraries\BBCode\KunenaBBCodeLibrary::renderEbayLayout(): Argument #1 ($ItemID) must be of type int, string given, called in /home/827734.cloudwaysapps.com/wqvptpacqq/public_html/libraries/kunena/src/BBCode/KunenaBBCode.php on line 304. Please enable debug mode for more information.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- berlinettajuice
- Offline
- Non-Member
-
Registered
- Posts: 6
- Thank you received: 0
I am aware of how old this thread is and it is an interesting one. Has any further development occurred since January 2012? I am very curious of the results.
Peter
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Josh Malks
- Offline
- ACD Club Past President
-
Registered
- Posts: 959
- Thank you received: 0
Note too that the bulb is intended to be mounted in a horizontal position. That is, the bulb points along the same axis as the base. That won't work in Cords in the stock configuration.
I'm working with the company on both issues -- trying out in Cord taillight housings, with lenses, etc. The slant of the Cord taillight housing is an issue too, since LEDs are directional -- their light points straight back, so the "bulb" will have to be canted in the base. Etc.
If anything comes of this we'll see if they will make up a run for us. Price will, of course, be an issue so we will see how that goes too.
Will report when something interesting happens. (Don't plan on spring 2012 yet
Josh B. Malks
810 2087A
ACD Club Life Member
ACD Newsletter editor
Past president
www.automaven.com
Check out CORD COMPLETE at www.cordcomplete.com
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Robbie Marenzi
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 4
- Thank you received: 0
www.culayer.com/BA15S-HP.htm
They offer single filament lamps, 6 volt compatible, standard or offset bayonets, white, red or amber. Price $199 per set of two.
Robbie Marenzi
ACD Club Member
Buenos
Robbie Marenzi
ACD Club Member
Buenos Aires
Argentina
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- mikespeed35
- Offline
- ACD Club Life Member
-
Registered
- Posts: 887
- Thank you received: 194
CORDially Mike
Mike Huffman
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Aris Loumidis
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 47
- Thank you received: 0
And here is another about 6V Porsches, I don?t know if they are neg or pos grnd, but that is only a matter of wiring properly the positive on to where the resistor is. thirdbrakelight.blogspot.com/
I?m halfway done to try out the mod on the Mercury, where the taillights have ample space inside, so I'm going to try adding about 50 LEDs in each, to work on the brake/turn function and I will post the results.
Aris Loumidis
Athens, Greece
ACD Life Member
______________
1936 CORD 810 Phaeton
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- johnmereness
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 767
- Thank you received: 159
JMM
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- silverghost
- Offline
- Premium Forum User
-
Registered
- Posts: 249
- Thank you received: 0
Does using these new LED lamps in place of conventional lamps cause any trouble with using your old style turn signal flasher ?
When using conventional bulbs a turn signal filament burn-out may cause the turn signal flashing action to stop.
Since the LED lamps use so little operating current~~~ Is this also a flasher operating issue ?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- johnmereness
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 767
- Thank you received: 159
JMM
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Aris Loumidis
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 47
- Thank you received: 0
Thanks all for the input! In the past I?ve had some ?very close encounters? especially on bright sunny days, so I?ve been long experimenting on this issue. Modern new cars have extremely bright Leds along with ?third brake lights?, making our classic?s lights even more inconspicuous. Swapping originality for safety to me depends on how one's classic is used, and I plan to drive mine while I can.
First I tried Halogen bulbs. They are brighter than regular ones, but burned much hotter and melted my ?54 Mercury?s inner plastics. They also burn out much faster. After that I also went for BOB DRAKE?s brighter ones that make a difference. But with so many Leds around I?m in the process of trying them out first on the Mercury which is also 6v pos. grd.
Leds come in many forms, and are available fitted on sockets with uneven pins for dual use.
Here is one, but not for 6volt pos grd, yet anyway.
I have bought the next one, it?s made for 6 v pos grd and you can see it in the comparison pic below. It has small flat Leds fitted 3 each on a number of small plates. Next to it is an individual glass round led
To me the most interesting are the individual glass Leds, because one can fit together a whole bunch of them, in any shape. They have like a magnifying glass-tip which directs and amplifies the light, when viewed straight from behind. They draw almost nothing, come in many colours and in 3,5 volts, very good news for us because we can use them with a 470 ohm resistror fitted in line on it?s positive terminal, (it?s the longer of the two terminals). Polarity should be observed, but that is no problem really because they can be properly wired and finally they sell around ?0.50 each .... not bad!
Here is a pic of a round glass Led, it?s 5 milimeters ( 0.197 inch) in diameter.
And here is a 7-Led setup that I have connected together for the below comparison. Pic is from the back and shows the 470 ohm resistors welded on each positive terminal.
To get an idea of the brightness I took the following pic. From right to left, on the far right is a regular incandescent lamp, then Bob Drake?s brighter one, then the Led tower I showed above ( all three of them connected to their ?high? watt terminal) and lastly to the far left is the 7-Led Setup.
The incandescent bulbs give out a warm light, while the Leds all have more of a whitish, ?neon? light. I dont know yet, but it might be better behind a red reflector. Anyway, the 7-Led Setup is the most bright one with a naked eye.
Next for me is to try everything on the Mercury, it's my driver till the Cord gets ready as well one day. For the turning signal, I plan to install 10 or so yellow individual Leds in each of my two backup and driving lights, because they have clear reflectors. When lit, the signal will be yellow and I trust it will be visible, the original incadescent bulbs will stay in there as well, to fullfill their purpose. For the brake lights, I?ll try first the Led Tower bulb, and if it does not work well, I?ll try a 3d Brake light on the rear window, ebay is full of cheap ones, I could replace their resistors for our 6 volts . here is a link of one I've ordered to test ? ... 1423.l2649
And a pick
Of course a 3d brake light is out of the question for the Cord, where whatever is done will have to be inside the taillights. There is space for many leds, if the the bulb and socket is removed, a few for driving, and more for break/turning signal. But that?s after I've experiment first on the Mercury.
One note on Turning signals: With Bob Drake?s bulbs and their higher wattage, the signal would blink too fast, so I got a special relay for them. With Leds drawing nothing, this would be reversed, but I have seen on line relays for Leds and anyway I guess one could leave the incandescent bulbs in there for that purpose. However, one thing at a time.
If you have any ideas for me to try out, let me know while I?m at it!
Aris Loumidis
Athens, Greece
ACD Life Member
______________
1936 CORD 810 Phaeton
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Tom Georgeson
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 484
- Thank you received: 1
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- mikespeed35
- Offline
- ACD Club Life Member
-
Registered
- Posts: 887
- Thank you received: 194
CORDially Mike
Mike Huffman
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- balinwire
- Offline
- Premium Forum User
-
Registered
- Posts: 150
- Thank you received: 19
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Tom Georgeson
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 484
- Thank you received: 1
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- balinwire
- Offline
- Premium Forum User
-
Registered
- Posts: 150
- Thank you received: 19
Unless they designed more filiment supports and some kind of cooling within the bulb road vibration would shake the hot filament apart, causing shorter bulb life.
Kind of like overclocking a computer processer.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Tom Georgeson
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 484
- Thank you received: 1
How are they not reliable?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- mikespeed35
- Offline
- ACD Club Life Member
-
Registered
- Posts: 887
- Thank you received: 194
CORDially Mike
Mike Huffman
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- balinwire
- Offline
- Premium Forum User
-
Registered
- Posts: 150
- Thank you received: 19
The biggest concern with higer wattage bulbs would be the two brake lights draw at 50 watt X 2 may drain the battery in a parade setting.
This is mostly an explority topic as bulbs are widely available now, but in the future filament bulbs may go the way of vacuum tubes, oil and kerosene, acetylene burning front and side lamps.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Josh Malks
- Offline
- ACD Club Past President
-
Registered
- Posts: 959
- Thank you received: 0
As far as brightness, Tom's Bob Drake bulbs are much brighter than the originals and require no adaptation.
Still, if LEDs are even brighter they might increase safely. A story with photos on adapting LEDs to Cords (or other ACD cars) would be welcome for the Newsletter.
Josh B. Malks
810 2087A
ACD Club Life Member
ACD Newsletter editor
Past president
www.automaven.com
Check out CORD COMPLETE at www.cordcomplete.com
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Tom Georgeson
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 484
- Thank you received: 1
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- balinwire
- Offline
- Premium Forum User
-
Registered
- Posts: 150
- Thank you received: 19
The new bulbs seem like a good idea as they need less wattage, should last longer and do not require any changes in the sockets. Are these new LEDs polarized? I would guess they would work in a + or - grounded car.
From what I could find out this is the way of the future as there will be LED headlamps also. The wattage draw should be less and they should run cooler. I hear 90 % of a 100w bulb energy is disposed of as heat. Home 100w filament bulbs are phased out 1/1/12 in US. Check out this video link below of LED accessory headlamps, as bright as halogen. Also very light in weight.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Aris Loumidis
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Moderator
-
Registered
- Posts: 47
- Thank you received: 0
Has anyone tried LEDs in our 'not so bright' taillights?
LED bulbs in 6volts pos.grd. are already being sold and I'm contemplating them already.
Then I read about LED strips that can be mounted in various ways within the lights.
Has anyone tried them?
Aris Loumidis
Athens, Greece
ACD Life Member
______________
1936 CORD 810 Phaeton
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.