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19 Sep 2023 12:14 #47749 by LumsdenLive
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I found The Timken LL52549 / LL52510 cone and cup should fit. Haven't had a chance to reassemble (working on shift switch) and will update with photos and confirmation once it goes together.

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1936 Cord 810 Westchester 1710A

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19 Sep 2023 03:39 #47747 by mikespeed35
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Measure the housing size and shaft size and you will probably find a bearing that will work. The shaft size is the important one. You can work around a smaller housing size. Measurements should be made with a caliper to thousands. CORDially MIke

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11 Sep 2023 15:18 #47694 by LumsdenLive
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Uploading this screenshot for future reference. I took another look through the newsletter archive and missed this first time around.

Adam Lumsden
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10 Sep 2023 07:41 #47689 by Terry Cockerell
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Hi Adam, I jumped the gun thinking the upper bearing in the steering box had been replaced with a bush. You should be ok with making and fitting a bronze bush at the top end of the steering column.
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Terry

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10 Sep 2023 00:46 #47688 by 1748 S
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Thanks for the picture. It shows the problem. When I get there if I have an issue like yours. I will just machine a brass bushing from 660 brass like I used in my transmission gears.


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09 Sep 2023 14:46 #47687 by George van Nostrand
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Adam Years ago I found a GM top column bearing assembly at a flea market with inner diameter close. To make it fit the jacket I had to make a bushing for the outside diameter.

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09 Sep 2023 14:15 #47686 by LumsdenLive
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Terry, I didn't even think about the steering box. Makes complete sense now where this bearing goes.

Tom, that is the strangest bearing I've ever seen, certainly not something I'm going to find off the shelf. Thank you for the photo.

I think I'm going to end up having to machine another bushing instead of the correct bearing.
 

Adam Lumsden
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09 Sep 2023 12:12 #47684 by Thomas Wilcock
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Is this the bearing you are referring to?  My outer race is in the column and it looks like it could be destroyed in removing it.  It is in good condition so I am going to leave it.  There is no number on the inner race.  There are 5/32 loose balls that run in the races.  Here is a picture of what I have taken apart.  I am sure the complete bearing is no longer available.
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09 Sep 2023 08:03 #47682 by Terry Cockerell
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If you have the steering box apart take it to a bearing supply store and get them to check the outer ring and bearing sizes.
There is no separate inner ring as that is part of the worm.
Check out the attached drawing.

 

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09 Sep 2023 00:12 #47681 by LumsdenLive
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The bearing at the top of the steering column on my car has been replaced at some point with a nylon ring that has worn and created noticeable play in the column. I've been searching and can't find any information here on the forums, or in any of the manuals. Finally ran across this document below which lists a Timken 05079-05185 for the column.

$70 later, the race doesn't even come close, far too large of a diameter to fit the steering column housing. What have others done? Anyone with their column currently on the bench and can find a part number?
 

Adam Lumsden
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