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1931 Brake Linings - woven?

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28 Jul 2010 21:48 #17415 by oldbanger71
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I had latley a discussion about that topic with a friend and heres what he said :

Leading brakeshoe on the right side of the car, is the one on the right side of the wheelcylinder, e.g. the long lining towards front of car.
Leading brakeshoe on the left side of the car is the one on the left of the wheelcylinder, e.g. the long one should always face towards the front of the car.

Woven linings are softer and therefore usualy riveted to the shoe, they ware faster and "bite " sooner, they are easyer to adjust but on a leading shoe will add braking force, they are also faster overheated and burned if missused.
They should always be fitted to the leading shoe. They can be used with all drums and also with thin or alu drums.

The plain linings are harder and therefore glued ( bondet ) to the shoes, they "bite " later but harsher usualy they are fitted to the rear shoe and handbrake, they resist more heat and don't glase that fast. This type of lining, should not be used with alu drums or drums that are less than 0,2755 " ( Zoll ) thick if castiron , since this lining is very hard, it can brake the drums in case you need to hit the brakes very hard.

Some brakes are using woven linings only ( most prewar II ), some used a plain lining to the folowing shoe and woven linings to the leading shoe ( manny prewar II) and most hydroulic post war II systems uses the plain linings on all shoes.

I made good experience with mixt linings on my pre war II brakes and probably will go this way with my BENDIX rear brakes and Lockheed front brakes on my Cord 812 Custom Beverly.
In case i have overbraking on the rear, i'll fit a adjustable proportioning valve in the brakeline to the rear, so i can adjust as needed.
here's a link : www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A3155A0A0.aspx



I hope this recapitulation has shed some more light on the brakelining-question. In casae someone knows more or disagrees, please let us know. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

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25 Jul 2010 07:34 #17400 by Tom Georgeson
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Just put a set of lining on my 810 Cord (Bendix brakes) and the front shoe is woven and the back is not. The fellow who did it is a real expert and he said that is what I needed. He was right, as I now have great brakes. The lining was arched to the drums.

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25 Jul 2010 05:53 #17399 by W. E. Snelson
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I have no experience with Auburn Steeldraulics, but woven linings are recommended for Hupmobiles with these brakes, also the Hudson factory manual ror '51 models specifies 1 woven and 1 moulded lining per wheel. Sorry, I cant remember which went on the leading shoe

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21 May 2010 15:03 #16817 by oldbanger71
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On the rear brakes: are the woven linings facing to the ground connected to the handbrake cable ? if yes i guess the woven linings give less adhesion, and is less used, which is why. The same thing in the front brakes. Maybe previous owners had a hard time adjusting the brakes eavenley or had to mix them together for missing brakeshoes or just beiing a cheap guy.
But if it works well enough don't change it. Just make shure the pads are phased ( angled ) on the ends to enebel good braking and no whistling, the pads ware in nicley, but if you blow out old brakedust or rgind the pads, use a good mask to protect your health! old braklinings contain Asbestos, which can cause cancer !. Some brakedrums had springs mounted on the outside of the Drum outer diameter for sound deadning.
If you can, i would like to see a pic of your brakes either here in this thread or you can send it to me : <a href="mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

Best regards :wink

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19 May 2010 16:15 #16806 by DPeeler
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The front wheels have the woven linings facing the rear and on the back wheels the woven linings face the ground. This is consistent left side to right side. Seems like it was planned - just never have seen this done before! Thanks

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19 May 2010 12:24 #16805 by oldbanger71
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Which brakeshoe is woven, the one facing to the front or back on each drum ?
Are all woven ones facing the same direction ?

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19 May 2010 00:32 #16802 by DPeeler
1931 Brake Linings - woven? was created by DPeeler
Having just pulled the drums on my steeldraulic brakes, I've noticed that on each wheel one lining is woven and the other is a composite material. Is there a reason for the mix of materials.... other than a mechanic short on materials? Thanks!

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