question about details of 8-98

Thanks guys,
you got PM.

BTW: posting pics in forums is very easy with special picture services. I use www.picr.de (its German, but you will find similar free services in English too).
I only have to choose the pics, mark and copy them und and one click later its in the thread, always in perfect size.

Regards,

Andreas

I took some pictures of my Dad's 1931 898-A yesterday for you, all the gauges and the door. The interior is completely original and in the family since 1956. If you'll PM your email to me I'll send them to you, never had much luck trying to post pictures here

Andreas; I seem to be having problems posting pictures, if you E-mail me I will post them on your E-mail. Sooner or later I'll get this figured out!
Bob

Andreas, Your dash in correct in the fact that the gauges are in the correct order and appear to have the correct faces. The ammeter and speedometer seem to be a bit askew, this should be an easy fix from behind the dash. The speedometer on the Rum-Runner has a trip odometer as well as total mileage, I do not know if the trip odometer was an option, or if yours was replaced with one not having a trip odometer. The background on your odometer is black with white numbers, this is also correct. The Rum-Runner's odometer is white with black numbers, this is incorrect and was done many years ago when the odometer quit and the correct ones were not found.
The door panels are held on with a bent metal spring loaded clip which hooks into the door panel and pushes into the holes in the metal located around the door perimeter. I am hoping all my pictures post properly and you will notice that at the bottom corners are one screw with a trim washer in each corner. The Rum-Runner is an 8-98A, the tops of the door panel are held on by the trim and perhaps something else which may be hidden behind the trim. If you need any more info please ask and I'll try to answer your question or post pictures if possible. Regards, Bob Esten and the Rum-Runner.

....regarding the VIN:

There is no VIN-tag on the floor. I only found 4-digit number on the RH frame rail.
And a Motor-No. (GU

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) on the engine tag LH side.

This engine number (GU

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) is the VIN in the title! Is this a mistake? I am a bit confused about.

Regards,

Andreas

I don't know spacificly about your model Auburn but some Cords and Auburns use hide-a-welt. It is nailed on then folded over to cover the nails. My 35 Auburn and 31 Cord door panels are attached in this manner.
CORDially Mik

My door has a wooden frame, only the vertical sides are partially steel covered.
Finish Nails I dont know, anybody has a link or a pic of them?

At my A-posts are some old nail pins to be seen in the wood under the inner side panel, but they do not really fix the panels. I can push the panels on these nails but it falls apart again..., because these nails doesnt have any heads, its more like needles... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

Its my first Pre War Project, I am more familiar with 50ies or later cars...

Regards

Andreas

It your door has a wooden frame then the panel would tacked in place with finish nails, tacked just hard enough to hide the nail, and not be able to feel it. If you door is made of metal it would be held in place by the metal clips talked about earlier.
My 2 Cents
K Clark

Hi Andreas, yes i've got you wrong, i don't know what the typical way of your car was but i would use either steelclips in the way i explaned, as can be found on manny cars of the time, or fix it with screws under the plated or nickled covers, that's how they used to do things. Some cars have on the lower end of the doortop an edge where the doorpanel is slid in and is only fasten with 3 screws on the bottom, somethimes covered with a plated cover. These are neat ways to fit the doorpanel without visible screws.
If you are unsure, ask one of the Auburn Judge of the ACD-Club how it should be, or place this question in the restoration guide section.
Philipp

@ oldbanger:

Sorry, you got me wrong. My door panels were fixed only by the nails at bottom and top, which I already removed. My question is how I can fix the panels now in the original way.
I could use any plastic mounting hardware from newer cars or visible screws or other stuff, but I would like to do it in the original way.

Thanks,

Andreas

First you have to take the inner doorhandle off by pushing the holecover aginst the trimpannel and there you see a pin trough the shaft, this has to be pushed out and the handle will comme off, do a quick scatch how all was together, the same for windowwinderhandle if there is one.
Usualy the sidetrimm in most cars are fitted witch sort of clips fitted to the trimpanel and are pushed into the driled holes in the inner doorskin. in your case you will have to detach the top and bottom nails anyway, so you can do that and then your able to feel or see where the clips are. then you need two flat and long pieces of either steel, or brass - no alu as itts not strong enough, place the flat pieces above and ounderneath each clip between trimpanel and dorrinnerskin and leaver them out ( one at the time and start at the bottom ). be careful since you don't know what's behind the panel and don't know what the trimpanel is made of. it can be cardboard or thin wood.
It's possible that not very much is holding YOUR timpanel other than the visible.
Good luck and happy easter <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Thanks so far.
Most questions cleared up, my remaining question is the right attachment of the inner door panels. On most cars I cant see any screws or retainers. I dont like drilling holes and using visible screws if this is not original.

Regards,

Andreas

the vin tag is located under the right side floor mat. If my memory serves me the number is also on the frame (on the right side) and to the left of the front tire.
Good luck
Lance....8 98A

Hello Andreas,
about the inner door panels I can't give you the correct answer,
but the inner screw for the doorhandle is the same like that on
my 1931 Auburn 8-98A. My Dashboard looks like yours.

Greetings from Hamburg.

Dirk

Whats wrong? No ideas? Come on.... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

Dear friends,

day by day new questions occur and I need your help again.

1. How are the inner door panels originally attached to the door frame? At my Auburn somebody nailed the leatherette to the bottom and to the top of the frame. At vertical sides there is no fixing. The inner screw for the outer door handle is correct?







2. My speedometer and possibly the Amperemeter seems to be not original, because of the twisted position and a different style.
Somebody knows more about these instruments? If somebody can offer me the right ones, please let me know.





3. Where is the VIN located? Cant remember....(oops)

Thanks in advance.

Andreas