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Thank you, Jonathan!
I just sent an email off to the Cleveland Public Library requesting information on Cord dealerships in 1937. We'll see if they can help.
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In brief there are at least three (3) dealerships confirmed by
newspaper advertisements of the period from April, 1936 to January ,
1937. These are Stan Hill Motors, Ltd. of Sidney, AU , Stokoe Motors
Pty., Ltd. of Melbourne, AU and Sporting Cars Ltd. in a location not
discernible to me ( reported in an advertisement on 6-20-1936 in a
publication THE MAIL ).
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Brad,
In Philly there was Teefy-Seltz located at 1231 North Broad Street (maintence and parts were at 1230 N. Watts Street). They also had a showroom at 1518 Walnut Street in Allentown.
There was also another Auburn Cord dealer in Allentown but I can't find the info right now.
Jim
Hmm, I may have to check this out the next time I'd pass by that location.
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Rice Motors inc
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from google sat image looks like it is gone
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From Google earth photos~~~
It appears that the Philadelphia 1231 North Broad Street showroom building might still possibly still exist . The building, and it's roof, appear to be very old .
Little has seemed to have changed, or been built new, on North Broad Street for many decades. It is not a very safe area to travel in today.
The Philadelphia 1230 N Watts street parts & maintence facility appears to be long gone and has been replaced by a fairly modern small pad-site lot centered building.
The 1518 Walnut street Allentown large dealership building might possibly still also exist today .
This looks like a combination auto dealer & service shop.
I will try to swing by the Philadelphia 1231 North Broad Street loction some day in the future.
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Thank's for the Philly Broad st. location info update .
I will have to check-out those locations when I get down to the big city and that Broad street area again.
For now I am trying Google earth photos to see what old buildings still remain at those three address locations .
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In Philly there was Teefy-Seltz located at 1231 North Broad Street (maintence and parts were at 1230 N. Watts Street). They also had a showroom at 1518 Walnut Street in Allentown.
There was also another Auburn Cord dealer in Allentown but I can't find the info right now.
Jim
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Auburn-Cord dealership for what is now the state of Hawaii , but was at
that time a territory. I conducted research to identify this dealership back in February of 2007 because a Cord Model 810 cabriolet previously
owned by my brother Charles ( a former club member ) had origins on
the island of O'Ahu.
The Polk-Husted Business Directory for 1937-1938 at Page 35 shows
an advertisement for Pacific Motors , LTD located at 1159 Kapiolani Blvd., Honolulu , Hawaii. Their telephone number was 3723 and their
add indicates they were distributor for " Willys -- Cord -- Auburn " as
well as for Diamond T Trucks.
I have no knowledge of ID nos. on any Auburns sold through this
dealer but believe there is credible information showing connection of
the following listed Cord Models 810/812 with Hawaii and probably with
this dealership.
S#2656F - 1936 Model 810 Cabriolet - Formerly owned by my
brother and now by G. Ornazian of Michigan
S#31643H- 1937 Model 812 Supercharged Phaeton - Shown as
now owned by one W. Bronkow of Wisconsin
S#32410S - 1937 Model 812 Supercharged Beverly - Now owned
by J. Dwyer, Jr. of Colorado.
There may well have been other Cords and or Auburns with Hawaii
Territory connections. It was all a long time ago. And , of course , there is the oft told story about a Cord open car having appeared in the frames of a B&W movie taken during the bombing of Hickam Field
at Pearl Harbor on 12-7-1941. Who knows. Jonathan Richards at
Red Oak, Iowa aka <a href="mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
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Thank's for the aucton update~
I sure would like to see that car in person given our family's prior ownership connection.
I am sure J-444 will be way out of my reasonable purchase price range~~~Unless I want to sell my houses now to raise some needed fast cash ?
Oh Well~
At least I will still have those several old B&W period photos of her with Dad's uncle William Hunter, her third known owner, standing next to it !
The photos we have show J-444 just before old Howard bought her & chopped-up the original Derham tourister body to build his infamous glider & experimental airframe tow car out of her.
It's a small wonder that J-444 still survives in any form or condition today !
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Many very old car dealership buildings , of various auto brands, still survive to this very day in Philly.
A few are Landark buildings like the Packard office building, and it's giant art deco first level showroom still survive and. It' multi story upper office building is now a high-end luxury condo.
The very large Packard neon sign was restored and it is lighted every night.
The Derham custom coach & bodyworks buildings still partially survive in the suburban Philly Rosemont Pa area
One is still an auto dealership.
As many ACD fans know Derham coachworks built many fine high end custom auto coaches for the Model J Duesenber;, as well as others . One such auo was J-444 a Derham tourister once first owned by actor Joe E. Brown, then later traded to a Ford dealer who in turn sold it to my great uncle William Hunter who shortly later sold it to his friend &, real estate business associate, Howard Hughes who sadly chopped off the aft end of it's coachwork and turned her into his infamous glider tow car.
J 444 still exists today with a very high quality replica Derham tourister body. It sold at auction not long ago, as I believe it was then sold-off from the late John O'Quinn estate/collection.
I believe we still have some vintage B&W period photos of William Hunter, & Duesenberg J-444, as well as some other Classic autos, while it was still in his short term ownership !
I now often wonder if any ACD dealership showroom building still survives in the general Philadelphia area here today ?
Does anyone have any address, or dealer's names ?
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Also, Dave McCann has reference to Folkrod Motors at 170 S. Broadway; this was in 1935.
Cleveland St. ( not Place) is a very short street nowadays. I assume there was a name change since 1932.
For historical reference purposes, I also think it would be a great idea to catalog all the dealers throughout the country, and overseas. Old phone books are a good start.
CORDially, Tim.
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Somewhere I have another find from an old phone book, but can't seem to find it right now.
Tim.
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a list.
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The ACD Museum has compiled an informal list of known dealers based on pieces in the archives that have dealer stamps on them and also company correspondence. It is enormous and difficult to qualify. There is no differentiation between a small repair garage that bought a part once and a full blown showroom dealer. Nevertheless it is a starting point and I'm happy to have the reference.
Tim I'd love the info on the Cleveland St. dealer sometime thanks.
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It is an interesting area with the strong majority of the buildings being dealerships or in the automotive trade.
I usually order an Auburn 12 salon, in polychromatic colors ,and I have a deposit there ready to go, but I cannot make up my mind as to body style.
Seriously, if anyone is in Chicago and would like to tour the dealership, and auto row, feel free to contact me. Auto row iss mostly on Cermack rd (2200 south) and Michigan av.
There is alot of gangster history there and music history. Tours of Chess Records are available.
I would like to have all the Chicago photos of ACD cars, and belive me , many photos were shot there, in particular by Soldiers Field, downtown, and in front of a well known tall building in Hyde Park, across from todays Science and Industry.
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All - I will start compiling a list and view it as a long-term project. In the short term I won't have much time to aggressively research but I would love to collect whatever information members have and care to share.
Also if anyone has evidence or rumor of a specific car coming from a specific dealership I think it would be interesting to capture that information as well. I'm happy to record all the data if others can help provide it.
Please post it up here or feel free to email me at:
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The building may well have been demolished. But the photo survives.
Justin, you could kick off a long-term and valuable project archiving the names and addresses of Auburn, Cord and Duesenberg dealers. Most of the information exists, fragmented as you say. I'll bet the museum would support this effort too. And you might check with Jon Bill regarding what they already have.
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I have read that the Rousselle Motors building was demolished in the 90's by the adjacent church. I haven't had a chance to go look for myself yet but maybe your information contradicts that and the building may survive? That would be great!
Jon do you happen to know if there were any dealers in Iowa? I am from Bettendorf originally and my entire family is from SE and NW Iowa.
Chris it sounds, based on the feedback I'm getting here, as though the dealer information may be fragmented. Perhaps I'll have to start a list myself.....
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I have the photo, if I can figure out how to upload it!
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Perry Motors was also reportedly the agent through which Doran Hinchman of Logan, WV, ordered Murphy Convertible Coupe J-357 / 2388. This was the only Duesenberg I know definitively to have been sold new in WV (and it remains in the hands of Mountain State natives to this day). As mentioned in the current Duesy Notes, an A or X phaeton (not a limousine - my flub) was in town earlier in the 1920s, but we have no way of knowing if its owner was the original buyer or not. To be blunt, everyone with first-hand memory of the car is dead.
The dealership was located at 7th Street East and 4th Avenue.
There were later ACD "service centers" in the area, working on the cars once they became used curiosities, most notably Irwin's Tire Service (our own small-scale John Troka).
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The following information will help you not a bit in determining who the
Denver, Colorado ACD dealer/distributor/s might have been but to begin
your list let's identify the distributor for Auburn and Cord in our now 50th
state, i.e. Hawaii.
Some research I conducted some years ago, utilizing a copy of the
POLK-HUSTED DIRECTORY CO. "Directory of City and County of Honolulu
and the Territory of Hawaii" Vol. 1937-38 , XLIV , showed that distrubutor
for Willys, Cord, Auburn and Diamond T Trucks was PACIFIC MOTORS LTD
which was located at 1159 Kapiolani Blvd. Their telephone # was 3723. I
attempted, utilizing auto enthusiasts/hobbyists on O'AHU , to conduct some
additional research trying to identify the name of the owners of the firm
and then to try to locate relatives still living in Honolulu. This effort met with little success. I am familiar with at least three Cord Models 810/812
that were most probably sold by the referenced Hawaiian distributor. Then
there is the story told about an open Cord of Model 810/812 which was
allegedly owned by a serviceman and parked on the tarmac of Hickam
Field on the morning of December 7, 1941 as the Japanese dive bombers
and fighters attacked Pearl Harbor. Everytime I watch " TOTA TORA " or
old newsreels of the exploding aircraft on the field I wonder if there was
in fact a Cord there and whether it was destroyed in the attack or perhaps
survived. If it survived I think I know what vehicle it is and was. It is still
in existence in this country and beautifully restored. That is another story
for another day. Best Regards, Jonathan Richards at Red Oak, Iowa
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No problem - I'd be happy to share whatever I find out with you.
Tom,
Same with you but I'm not going to focus on Ohio.
If there are no consolidated records of any type either within the Club or the Museum then I'll have to go hit the newspaper archives and start digging.
I'd still love to start with a little more information to narrow the search so hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will chime in with some info.
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Any list of dealers in Ohio would be appreciated. The Old Lady's history before 1950 is unknown to me.
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My 1932 Auburn was sold new in Denver. If you find any information or photos on the Auburn dealership there, I would be interested in purchasing copies.
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Perhaps the Museum has this information?
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