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silverghost wrote: Did this Tucker in fact sell last February ?
If so~ For how much ?
Where is it today ?
You would have thought that the owners would have welcomed the Tucker Club's expert inspection, documentation, and stamp of approval .
This would only serve to greatly increase it's eventual auction value ~~~ IF ACTUALLY AUTHENTIC .
It is apparently still for sale on the Benchmark Classics web site. I'll call Justin this week and see if he has any updates for us. Wouldn't be surprused to see it again in Scottsdale.
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If so~ For how much ?
Where is it today ?
You would have thought that the owners would have welcomed the Tucker Club's expert inspection, documentation, and stamp of approval .
This would only serve to greatly increase it's eventual auction value ~~~ IF ACTUALLY AUTHENTIC .
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I heard the car sustained minor damage in the tent collapse and that the restoration team vowed to fix it, gratis, for the buyer.
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From their website one has to wonder why it's prsent owners would not be more forthcomming with the car's engine serial numbers & Tucker Club member experts inspections etc.
To me ths sends up a real red flag !
Might the present owner be worried that the real Tucker factory records of this engine number indicate it's true history in another known and factory documented Tucker 4 door; and not a convertible prototype ?
We all have to wonder why any owner who is trying to sell a well advertised and spposed rare car for miliions $$$ might wish to keep it's true history that muddy and secret?
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We need a "Tucker Convertible" Update !
Has anyone else actually seen , and inspected it close-up ?
Was the "restoration" ever completed ?
Did it ever sell ?
If not~~~
I would think that this sort of car would be a natural drawing card for the upcomming Barrett~Jackson AZ. Auction & three ring circus this February .
All those more money than brains hotshots that attend B-J each year would fall over each other for a chance to over-bid on this "Tucker Convertible Prototype" !
After all they like to out-bid each other on all those "clones", "tribute cars", and "resto-mods" while appearing live on Speed TV for all the world to see just how much disposable money they have to spend.
As an added additional auction and TV attraction Craig Jackson could bring back that buyer's agent guy from here in Philly, who wears the red Ferrari jacket and cap.
He could sit in the Tucker Convertible and dare and egg-on all the other bidders to out-bid him like he did the last time he appeared at the auction. He has not appeared for a few years now~
As an added attraction he, and Craig, could have another live autograph signing session, on Speed TV; like they did the last time he appeared soon after the Tucker goes over the auction block! This autograph session could appear live on Speed TV too !
This would make great auction "Reality TV" !
What are your thoughts on this "Tucker Convertible" today~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AND ~also my B-J Auction promotional ideas ?
I cannot wait to hear all the forum's thoughts !
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The 1933 Auburn speedster that was there survived with only a busted headlight. Haven't heard anything about the Cord.
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However, this makes my fantasy bid of $1,500,000 darn close!
I'm sure the official results will be posted later today.
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This is a beautifully executed example of a Tucker convertible. It is so accurate if it never was, it is now. If the boxed oval frame is unique I am afraid I would have to consider it at least 98% original. With not a shred of evidence other than the frame and verbal testimony I have to say it sure looks like a Tucker convertible. They say possession is 98% of the law. Maybe it was some secret project. The mystery continues, it would have been a shame to see it destroyed in the collapse. It will be a subject of debate forever on.
There was supposed to be 1.5 million dollars of damage and the cars have not been examined, there may have been some ACD cars involved.
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With the complete dearth of ANY original documentation for this assembly of a car, would it be ethical to insure it as anything other than "parts?" How much do y'all s'pose the owner insured it for?
Anyone seen the ghost of P T Barnum hanging around??
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Chris Summers wrote: Nice car...I look forward to seeing some of its cousins in a month!
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balinwire wrote: Hi Alsancle,
Were there any factory records of this vehicle, a birth certificate?
No title, no pictures, no registration, only word of mouth saying they heard there was a secret project going on in a company that was closing.
This project very well may have been a possibility as there were lots of leftover parts, but proof is the difference between a 5oo thou car and a 5 million dollar car.
That would mean that if the smallest paper document mentioning body 57
being open, or a 4x6 inch paper photograph of a convertible with Preston Tucker in front of it would be worth 4.5+ million dollars to prove 57 authenticity.
In the absence of factory documents, what about the car itself? Where has it been for 50 years?
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Were there any factory records of this vehicle, a birth certificate?
No title, no pictures, no registration, only word of mouth saying they heard there was a secret project going on in a company that was closing.
This project very well may have been a possibility as there were lots of leftover parts, but proof is the difference between a 5oo thou car and a 5 million dollar car.
That would mean that if the smallest paper document mentioning body 57
being open, or a 4x6 inch paper photograph of a convertible with Preston Tucker in front of it would be worth 4.5+ million dollars to prove 57 authenticity.
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I have the boat tail of that missing L-29 Cord Speedster in my shed. It's a fiberglass tri-hull, right?
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Looks like the same car as in the first picture, Tom.
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that has a large showcase of 50's Studebakers from the 50 Bullet Nose (best car I ever owned--bought it for $75.00 in 1978 or so) through the unfortunately creepy 58 and on to the Larks. In that gallery there is a photo of a convertible 53--stated to be converted from a hardtop.
A direct reference to a convertible Hawk conversion can be found at
www.rodandcustommagazine.com/fea ... index.html
This car was apparently built on the west coast and was built too late to be the one I saw in South Bend.
Another Hawk convertible conversion is listed at
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Well, none of this is ACD, but it has a certain orphan-car interest. Next time I get to downtown South Bend I'll stop at the Studie museum and see if they have any info on any FACTORY 53-series convertibles.
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The only thing that would surprise me in your garage would be an 810/812 Cord... but, only because they are "drivers".
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By the way, Tom, where exactly would anyone find that "'53-'58 or so Studie convertible" that "someone hung a Hawk front end on"? I have seen a few 1953-1954 coupes that were transformed into convertibles, and they certainly were lovely cars. Not too sure about the rigidity, though. I'll bet a Hawk convertible would be a sharp car, too . . . but you're right, what do you call it? I would say it's a "converted convertible!"
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mikespeed35 wrote: What would you all say if the missing L-29 Cord Speedster suddenly appeared in my garage that I bought from some guy six months ago?
CORDially Mike
What an incredible coincidence! I just bought a car from that fellow over the phone. He assures me that it is a rare futuristic prototype, built seventy years before its time--a combination Auburn-Cord. He said it's called the Aucord.
The only nonoriginal modifications are a few pesky Honda badges, but I figure I can remove those by Labor Day.
(Wokka-wokka, as Fozzie Bear would say.)
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I fitted my '57 Silver Hawk with a Golden Hawk blower. It ran like a scared Banshee and could outrun the Michigan State Troopers. (But not their radios--that's a different story.) Was it a "Supercharged Silver Hawk," or a "Converted Silver Hawk?"
Somebody gas-axes and welds up some Tucker body panels to make a convertible car that looks like a Tucker. Is it a "Convertible Tucker," or a "Converted Tucker?" Is it even a Tucker at all?
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There?s no doubt this is a Tucker cowl. It just seems there are more questions than answers.
Rather than announce they car is the first prototype open car, why not let it be displayed and then determine if it is authentic.
There may be some substantial evidence proclaiming it?s pedigree thru spoken word or print.
It is a very nice exercise to announce 57 as the Holy Grail is a little premature.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, and Benchmark Classics is showing interest.
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Well here is a news flash?the world?s only Tucker Convertible will premiere at Keels & Wheels next weekend, also the featured marque is Duesenberg. This Tucker rag top has gotten a lot of attention and generated controversy.
For the last several months discussion groups and the Old Cars Weekly web site have been buzzing with news of the World?s only Tucker convertible. Today Bob Fuller Chairman of the Keels & Wheels Councours d?Elegance and Justin Cole, President of Benchmark Classics jointly announced the car will premiere next weekend May 2nd in Seabrook, TX.
I spoke to Cole a short time ago about the unveiling. ?The car is not yet complete, but due to the level of interest we thought a preview would be in order. We have a large shop, and for the last few weeks we have devoted about 70% of our labor hours to the Tucker. We chose Keels & Wheels to preview the car for several reasons; I and my partners are originally from Texas, the growing reputation of the show and its Chairman Bob Fuller, and mostly due to the wide exposure the car will garner with some of the country?s foremost collectors and the general public.?
Fuller says, ?We are pleased that the world?s only Tucker convertible will be seen publically for the first time at Keels & Wheels. Justin and his crew have been working non-stop to be ready. Although the car won?t be complete you will definitely see what it will be upon completion.?
Additional information and a video of the Tucker convertible can be found in the January Old Cars Weekly article at
[url:xpft5oro]http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article/The_Mysterious_Tucker_convertible/[/url:xpft5oro]
The car can also be seen as a work in progress can be found
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Tickets and information for Keels & Wheels can be found at
[url:xpft5oro]http://www.keels-wheels.com[/url:xpft5oro]
I?m also pleased to announce that I was asked to be director of Videography for the event, and will be working with a professional film crew. Quite a step up from my You Tube videos! I look forward to seeing you next weekend in Seabrook.
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