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Thanks to both you and Pete for your thoughts on all this!!!
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So I'm still confused.
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Don, is your axle drilled in the same place?
Too bad about the owners manual but another 8-105 owner is happy.
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First of all, thank you for the time you've spent looking into the 8-105 enigma... I appreciate this very much. So here is what I know and don't know right now: (1) the front axle on my car is stamped E61807... I think (it's hard to read exactly; (2) according to my Parts List for 8-105, 8-101 and 8-100, the "center" for the 8-105 should be E61818... the center for the 8-101 and 8-100 is E60217; (3) the king pin for E61818 should be E61809 but the parts book doesn't say if this is 3/4" king pin (which mine is at present); and (4) according to the 8-98 and 8-98A parts list, the front end center should be E1-412.
The stamping on my axle is certainly not E1-412 so I'm inclined to think that the axle is a 1933 vintage (or perhaps later???). Over the past two years, we've noted several "front end" discrepancies that have led us to believe that the car had a substantial encounter with a fixed object at some time before 1965.
As far as the Bijur connection goes, it's impossible to insert the Bijur fitting into the top of the king pin because there is inadequate clearance with the hydraulic brake line. When I got the car in 1965, I wasn't aware of the Bijur mechanism and did not discover the absence of the front-axle Bijur supply line until many years later.
I bought the car in 1965 when I was in high school... at that time it was a "chicken coop" up in the hills east of Seattle. I suspect that it was so converted sometime after WWII and probably in the early 60s. I suspect that the front-end encounter occurred long after Auburn stopped supplying parts and that someone made do...
A large part of the joy that I'm having with this car is discovering its history... in this spirit I will continue to decipher the reason why the Bijur system was disabled.
Thanks again!
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Yours is definitely a salon axle.
What is the king pin diameter?
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We need to see the whole front axle to determine if it is salon.
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According to my parts book the 8-105 front center axle should be part E61818. The same part for 8-100 & 8-101 would be E60217. Yours may be from a 1931 8-98 (same width and general design) although I can't check because I don't have that parts book. The 8-98 did not have hydraulic brakes so it would make sense that the hose on your car could interfere with the Bijur fitting. Maybe someone with a 8-98 parts book can confirm my theory.
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For several other reasons, I think my car sustained some serious front-end damage before I acquired it in the mid-1960s. I am trying to figure out if the front center axle was replaced with a front center from a different model or year. Can anyone provide information on this question?
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Information from my memory so it is suspect.
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Since then, I've noticed several other irregularities: right now, I am unable to connect the Bijur junctions on the king-pins; it's impossible to screw in the Bijur fittings due to the placement of the brake tubing. The front axle on the car has a stamped serial number --- D 1046. I am wondering if this number corresponds to 8-105 axles?
If anyone can provide information on this, I would be appreciative.
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