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1933 8-105 Front Axle

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06 May 2021 00:28 #43064 by pete kelly
Replied by pete kelly on topic 1933 8-105 Front Axle
Owners manual for 8-105 on ebay
Original Auburn Owner's Manual Models 8-105
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06 May 2021 19:14 #43076 by DONALD.ELMER
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the king pin diameter is 3/4"

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07 May 2021 01:59 #43078 by Justin Kerns
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Hi Don - here are 2 photos of an 8-105 front axle. One shows the passenger side and how the Bijur fitting exits the axle and immediately bends down and away from the brake line. The other shows the driver side where the brake line has been removed. This view shows the routing of the Bijur line down and along the axle. Also I agree with Pete - the shape of your axle does look correct so I think based on these photos hopefully you can see how to make everything fit.


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07 May 2021 04:26 #43084 by DONALD.ELMER
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Hey Justin...

First of all, thank you for the time you've spent looking into the 8-105 enigma... I appreciate this very much. So here is what I know and don't know right now: (1) the front axle on my car is stamped E61807... I think (it's hard to read exactly; (2) according to my Parts List for 8-105, 8-101 and 8-100, the "center" for the 8-105 should be E61818... the center for the 8-101 and 8-100 is E60217; (3) the king pin for E61818 should be E61809 but the parts book doesn't say if this is 3/4" king pin (which mine is at present); and (4) according to the 8-98 and 8-98A parts list, the front end center should be E1-412.

The stamping on my axle is certainly not E1-412 so I'm inclined to think that the axle is a 1933 vintage (or perhaps later???). Over the past two years, we've noted several "front end" discrepancies that have led us to believe that the car had a substantial encounter with a fixed object at some time before 1965.
As far as the Bijur connection goes, it's impossible to insert the Bijur fitting into the top of the king pin because there is inadequate clearance with the hydraulic brake line. When I got the car in 1965, I wasn't aware of the Bijur mechanism and did not discover the absence of the front-axle Bijur supply line until many years later.
I bought the car in 1965 when I was in high school... at that time it was a "chicken coop" up in the hills east of Seattle. I suspect that it was so converted sometime after WWII and probably in the early 60s. I suspect that the front-end encounter occurred long after Auburn stopped supplying parts and that someone made do...

A large part of the joy that I'm having with this car is discovering its history... in this spirit I will continue to decipher the reason why the Bijur system was disabled.

Thanks again!

Don

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07 May 2021 04:27 #43085 by DONALD.ELMER
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Pete.. the book was gone by the time I checked.

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07 May 2021 11:45 #43089 by pete kelly
Replied by pete kelly on topic 1933 8-105 Front Axle
In Justin's pic the axle appears to be drilled for the bijur fitting.
Don, is your axle drilled in the same place?
Too bad about the owners manual but another 8-105 owner is happy.
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