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09 Dec 2013 16:29 #26449 by landmark
landmark replied the topic: Re: J357

Bob Roller wrote: Matt,
About 60 years ago,Jack Irwin and I installed a clutch in this car, J-357.It had about 20,000 miles on it then. This was a nice but slightly neglected original.The picture in Elbert's first edition shows it as a car in decline but back then,7:50x19 tires were nearly unobtainable and what few there were
had been around too long and were dry rotted.
I have driven it several times and it was a good running,good driving Duesenberg.

Bob Roller



Hello Bob,

I always appreciate your postings, they bring the history of some cars much closer to me.

I know which two (Elbert Book) photos you mentioned.

One of them is aswell published on the Curtright-website http://www.duesey2208.com/Datasheets/Mo ... rm2388.htm


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Matt

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31 Jan 2014 14:23 #26838 by landmark
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Hello,

J-148 will be offered at the Paris Retromobile auction by artcurial.

Estimate 600-800k Euro.

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullcat ... 56&image=3 You will find the description in english tongue, underneath the french one.

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Matt

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31 Jan 2014 20:46 #26842 by 61xlch
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Not that expensive...?

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31 Jan 2014 21:40 #26843 by Chris Summers
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Randy can confirm but I believe the engine of this car is actually J-422, renumbered as J-148. The car was put together by Ray Wolff and Joe Kaufmann and was on Wolff's business cards and shown at Auburn for years.

I've seen similar bodies on Renault Vivasix and Packard Twelve chassis (I think the Packard's body was moved from a Renault).

I like how the French auction catalogue gets much more excited about the legitimacy of the body than the Duesenberg chassis underneath.

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01 Feb 2014 13:17 #26847 by alsancle
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Removing the second windshield would be a huge improvement. That or taking 8 inches out of the height.

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01 Feb 2014 16:47 #26848 by Bob Roller
Bob Roller replied the topic: Ray Wolff Duesenberg
I talked to Ray right after he sold it.He got several cars and cash for it but I
don't feel like I should say what the amount was.
It is NOT one of the better looking Duesenbergs and I agree with AJ on the modifications he mentioned.
There was another "J"with a Graber body that was spectacular and it isn't the one shown in Elbert's book. On this one,the only external Duesenberg features are the wheels and the instrument panel.Is it in the USA or somewhere else?

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