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John - the trim pieces around the trunk opening were painted body color. They were in place when the body was painted, in fact if you pulled back the rugs or just you found overspray.
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Here is Terry's note: John, I am assuming that you are referring to the trunk carpet?
Actually there was none in the trunk when I purchased the car. The only lining material in the trunk was inside the trunk lid.
I had reference sketches from two sources. One showed a long strip of the striped material under the jack shaft while the other showed the striped material following the line of the trunk opening. I opted for the latter as it looks better however I put the edge of the material under the adjacent cover plate just to hold it in place. The carpets were made in separate pieces and edged all round.
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If you can get the diagonal lines on the burlap, the next step is to adhere the burlap to a jute backing. Originally it was needled together, today we have many types of spray adhesives that would make that job pretty easy, even for amateur restorers.
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We do have 2 options for you. I recommend the Grey Tweed, and then you can die it to be the color you need. Please see the image link below for a quality image sample of the Grey Tweed
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The second option is the Brown Tweed pattern that we have, but it looks like it may not work for your requirements, due to the color pattern. Please see the image link below for the Brown Tweed.
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wcoye wrote: about how thick is the jute backing material? Stiff or flexible? Is it like thin carpet pad?
It is thin and flexible. Looks to be about 1/8" thick but hard to say due to deterioration over the past 80+ years. The thinnest carpet pad jute that I can find today is 20 oz, which is about 1/4" thick.
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Thanks for posting these pics. I find that by blowing them up on this website that I can actually get a close scaling of the no. of lines per inch. If you look closely in the blown up mode, the samples are stapled to a white background paper. The standard office staple is just a tiny fraction less than 1/2 inch in length. Using this info, the no. of lines/inch is approximately 8-9 lines/inch. on both of Rick's original samples.
Going back thru all the previous posts, there were a number with scales on original trunk material.
MichaelR had material with approximately 6 lines/inch.
Terry's original had approximately 6 lines/inch.
Tim Gilmartin's had approximately 9 lines/inch.
Wyn ladigs' had approximately 8.5 lines/inch on both samples.
We are seeing 2 distinct patterns, nominally 6 and 9 lines/inch. We need S.N.s for Michael R's and Tim Gilmartin's material. to try to determine if there is a specific time when the two types were used.
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Answer: Yes, I would say they are from the same source. There is a very slight difference in the line spacing, but the jute backing, total thickness and the weave of burlap seem to be nearly identical in both samples.
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The second material was used on the late 1937 cars and was probably necessary because they ran out of the first batch and had to do a small batch print. This material would have been on the late 812's.
The pic's of the samples are small and are not relative to a scale to allow counting lines per inch although it is not obvious that there is a variation in number of lines per inch.
810 2489F is relatively close to the end of 810 production, but was before any true 812 production, falling into the middle of what Rick described as 36/37 production. 812 310112 is relatively close to the end of 812 production, and could be considered a late 37 in Rick's terminology. They both have the same line spacing.
Question: In person, up close, do the materials appear to be from the same source, as well as having the same no. of lines per inch?
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From my understanding the Factory was focused on producing sedans during the early stage of production consequently a cabriolet with a low Serial Number would have been a real anomaly.
Both of your cars are "later " in the production run and both have the fine line trunk lining pattern which is consistent with what we know.
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If the number is correct then you have an extremely rare Cord.
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I've noticed that the restoration manual topic has laid fallow formany years . Would it make any sense to gather what has been gathered here (yes, poor use of sentence structure) and with some judicious editing and post it in the restoration manual category?
I enjoy searching through post to find an answer but often I'm in a hurry and have cull through a lot of stuff to find what I need to know. Whadya think?
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judges have a tough job. revealing flaws on the show field sometimes can become a bit dangerous but, it would be nice for owners to know what they need to correct too. perhaps, a form sent after show day.
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if a given car clubs goal is to preserve & improve the remaining vehicles out there....we should provide as much help as is feasible to forward that goal. not all of us are interested in making a show car. however, i think most would like to raise the authenticity of the car they have. anything the club car do along those lines will have long term benefits to the body of remaining vehicles ...which will probably out live us.
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Best to contact her and maybe it can be posted here.
I have to give a shout out to Mark Tomei and Allan McCrary (and many others) for all their hard work on the new restoration standards for all three Marques.
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Have other areas in Cords been covered with similar restoration guidelines?
If yes, how can they be accessed by the members?
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I continue to learn about these great cars.
Thank you all for your interest and contributions of knowledge and pictures!
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I also have a couple of original jack straps with the stock rusty washers. Judging from the fact that my latch has the same configuration that yours does, neither is bent. That was the configuration that was used, and it works fine after almost 80 years. P.S. My son had me convinced mine was bent also, until I saw the pic of yours.
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Rick went thru about 3 different suppliers over the course of time that he supplied the trunk kits. The face sheet with the lines changed with was available and economical. The jute backing to which the face sheet was adhered became basically illegal (Uncle Sam thought someone might smoke it},
Rick always tried to simulate the original material with affordable available materials.
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I believe the striped material with the fine lines in Tim Gilmartin's picture is the outside of the fuel tank filler pipe sleeve.
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