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10 Aug 2009 18:55 #14194 by oldbanger71
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About the Duesy which is pictured in fyreline's message :

I feel that for my taste the lower front fender is to low or the bonnet is to massiv compared to the body and rearfenders behind the firewall, which are very elegant. The Duesy on top of page resambles on the Chrysler Crossfire but laking the elegance. If Duesy or not, a car that apeals to me like the AMC Paecer ! <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

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16 Oct 2006 19:51 #5591 by balinwire
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I have been thinking about this project and thought this would be some inspiration of how the rear view should, minus the fins of course, hmmm- maybe the fins would be OK, eh? All 21st century Big D.

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02 Jul 2006 16:33 #5059 by Randy_G
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I found this on the new Duesy site, I knew I could never afford one of the original Duesy's, and sadly I wont be purchasing a new either.
I want to wish the best to luck to everyone envolved in new venture.


"The Duesenberg Torpedo Coupe will be made in a limited edition -- about 25 to 50 the first year, Hartje estimates -- and is intended for the same buyer willing to plunk down six figures for European cars like the Rolls-Royce Phantom, which costs $328,750. The Torpedo Coupe will be priced in the same range, according to Hartje."


David Hartje is the CEO of Duesenberg Custom Coach.



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29 Jun 2006 05:53 #5040 by acdclubadmin
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Personally, I think this is one of the better designs. It is just as fashionable now as it ever was.....


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29 Jun 2006 03:45 #5039 by Chris Summers
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Agreed on all points, although from the manufacturers' standpoint the big rear window was probably a necessary evil (safety).

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29 Jun 2006 02:09 #5038 by balinwire
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The key to these remakes is to have a few clues from the original, not in streamlining as no one could ignore that in the 21st century. The original engines were long and tall, no longer needed are large hood areas. When I see the remake Thunderbirds or Mustangs there is a little reflection of the past. Where this design is weak is the large window area of rear glass.
The backside falls short as it needs a small split window and possibly lifting the roof at the back to permit access for two more passengers. That huge rear window has got to go.
Possibly some flat kevler or tube bumpers to protect the grille and to give a feeling for the past in the design. Use the finest of interior coverings and go non stop on performance. Keep the tires reasonably narrow, maybe 10" wide.
Dont paint it red. Silver, blue, bronze, anything but red.

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29 Jun 2006 01:09 #5037 by cbs
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I like it, look at lower fender treatment; original and would look great if produced. Hope they make at least one so Jeff Teague can go down in history with Exner &amp; whoever at Packard drew the Kollins Dusenberg early '50s.

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27 Jun 2006 21:19 #5035 by fyreline
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Hmmmmm....could be, but it's still a stretch:

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27 Jun 2006 20:46 #5034 by Chris Summers
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As for the new Duesy, maybe they took inspiration from the Duesenberg Mudd Coupe (just a little)?

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27 Jun 2006 20:35 #5033 by DJT
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CMHSDuesy wrote: I guess we should at least be thankful it's attractive, even if it isn't a Duesenberg. Think of the poor Packard fans (myself included):
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www.packardmotorcar.com/p2.htm



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ROFL

I like packards, but what's that! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->

sorry....

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Looks like it's part Tucker? <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> in the front and front fenders?

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27 Jun 2006 20:32 #5032 by Chris Summers
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I guess we should at least be thankful it's attractive, even if it isn't a Duesenberg. Think of the poor Packard fans (myself included):
<!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> BEHOLD!!! <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->

www.packardmotorcar.com/p2.htm

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27 Jun 2006 20:26 #5031 by DJT
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Give the grill area a little less layed back look and some hidden headlights and call it the Cord Boxer.

Thanks for throwing in Bugatti - I just couldn't get that out last night.

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27 Jun 2006 18:28 #5029 by fyreline
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I don't know - maybe it's just me but this proposed design, while not unattractive, just doesn't say "Duesenberg" to me at all. I keep looking at it over and over, searching for design cues from the Model J . . . and I just don't see any. Even the choice of a two-door fastback coupe just doesn't ring true. If fitted with a horseshoe-shaped grille, it certainly seems to echo a Bugatti more than a Duesenberg. As I said, it's not a bad-looking car by any means - and very few 2006 vehicles of any brand have too many visual cues to their 1930's ancestors. However, I feel that a "modern Duesenberg" has to look the part.

For me, this one doesn't. Nice, but no thanks. Now, with a little more upright and properly-shaped grille, some modern single headlamps, and as a dual-cowl phaeton . . . it might have possibilities.

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27 Jun 2006 02:27 #5024 by Chris Summers
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There's a lot of Bugatti Veyron in those lines.

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27 Jun 2006 02:08 #5023 by DJT
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It reminds me of something.......

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26 Jun 2006 03:53 #5017 by Josh Malks
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Bah, humbug.

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26 Jun 2006 00:46 #5016 by balinwire
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If there claims of a four-stroke engine with a calculated 70 MPG and 300 horsepower from an economical 100 pound package measuring 18 inches in diameter and 24 inches in length, this should be the best seller since the Ford Model "T".
Best of luck and I am sure the brothers would be proud of there newly launched namesake.
Does the original Duesenberg 1902 motorcycle survive?

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25 Jun 2006 13:15 #5015 by Josh Malks
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It is difficult (amd unlikely) enough to create [i:vm2n3vrp]one[/i:vm2n3vrp] model of a new car, using existing engines and drive trains. This bunch has set out to create a new car using an unusual and untested new engine that no-one will know how to service and for which they will have to create new tooling and manufacturing facilities. Not only that, they intend to continue production of the replica Duesenbeg II AND create a new motorcycle and a kiddie car too!

Shows how you can get carried away by licensing a famous name.

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25 Jun 2006 03:47 #5014 by Bill Hummel
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Does anyone have pricing on the new car? It looks a lot like a Bentley to me.

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18 Jun 2006 21:05 #4987 by Chris Summers
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I don't think the new car is anything special appearance-wise, or even a fair representation of what the Duesenberg we be if it had evolved over time. A Duesenberg created by Cord Corporation in the 21st century would be available as both a stodgy limousine and a sleek convertible on the same chassis. Or it may not even be great...look at how cars produced by Cadillac and Lincoln have gone downhill since their '30s heyday. Part of the magic of the Duesenberg was that it was made in an era when it was easy to build great cars because you have freedom with design.
I wish the builders of the new car all the best and success, but at least from first blush it is NOT a modern Duesenberg.

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18 Jun 2006 18:37 #4986 by Randy_G
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I was wondering with the clock ticking down on the release of the New Duesenberg Torpedo Coupe is anyone here excited to see it. Or do you think that it will be a bust like so many other attempts to bring the grand name back from the past?



www.duesenbergcustomcoach.com/torpedocoupe.html

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