Jim Hoe Sportscar Garage 1950s Memory

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15 Nov 2010 06:39 #18395 by silverghost
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Hello: I am a new ACD forum member here!
My 92 y/o father was an early Classic & Brass_Era Car collector & I have been around the great Classics all my life~
I am now 55 y/o !

My father was great friends with Henry Austin "Austie" Clarke an early antique mega-car collector and we would often visit
his great Long Island NY car museum !

Through Dad's friendship with "Austie" we had the pleasure of meeting Jim Hoe who at this time ran his "Sportcar Garage" In Weston Ct.Jim was a super guy !
We visited his great "garage" many times !

Jim liked to drive and race his "sportscars"
He especially liked Hill-Climb events !
When he got tired of the smaller sportscars jim got into racing Duesenberg Model "J" autos.
Jim also called these cars his "Sportscars " !
He got involved with the great model "J" at a fairly young age !

A typical visit to his garage would find all manner of Duesenberg cars as well as engines and tons of model "J" parts all over his shop!

Jim is often called one of the very first Duesenberg model "J" restorers ~
But in reality, at least in my early memory, Jim was really a racer / driver/ engine rebuilder.
Jim did not baby these cars like most Duesenberg owners do today~

He really drove them !
Jim always told Dad & I that they were built to be driven~
And drive them he did !

In fact he, and some of his friends, really beat the living daylights out of these great model"J" s !
You have to remember these cars were almost worthless in the early 1950s after the war !
Most folks thought it crazy to be interested in these old relics !

Jim had a favorite hill-climb chassis that he had dug-up and often raced. It had a crude home-built racing body.
He had hacked-up and shortened it's chassis.
To lighten this chassis he used a hole saw to cut holes everywhere ! he chassis looked like swiss cheese !
He and his Duesenberg "Sportscar" friends blew-up many a model "J' engine.
Some were sitting all around his garage.
Connecting rods, one of the model "J" engine's weak links would often be thrown through the crankcase, pan, or blocks .

Dad often speculated that the reason many Duesenberg model "J" cars today often have so many mixed engine, bellhousing, and chassis numbers was because of jim and his racing & hill-climb friends.
They mixed and matched parts to keep these great cars running !
We know of no other big full Classics that are so mixed & matched engine & chassis wise.
They early-on seemed to have no respect at all for great original coachwork !
Great body & Coahwork did not interest them at this point in time !
Word soon spread nationwide about Jim's Duesenbeg garage & shop.
Owners and early collectors would often seek-out jim for help with repairs, and much needed rare spares.
Jim would reproduce or supply much needed early repair parts.
Everyone knows of his adaptation of the early White truck transmission for the model "J" . He thought this truck gearbox much more robust than the Warner High Flex T-72 unit.
JIm found this gearbox especially usefull for hill-climb events, after wrecking many stock Duesenberg Warner units.
We both saw Jim Hoe and others at several hill-climb events here in Pa.
Jim knew all the weak points of the model "J"s chassis and running gear.

Jim Hoe's interest in racing & hill-climb events soon declined around about the same time as the early Classic car collectors
started paying attention to the great Classics. Prices for Duesenberg, Rolls~Royce, Hispanos, Isottas, and similar cars started to climb rapidly.
Classic Car collecting had arrived !

Jim Hoe and his "Sportscar Garage" then soon started to actually do some of the first real restorations on these once grand and now neglected and sometimes abused Classics.
JIm supplied many of the first early restoration parts.
He was great friends of Sam Edelman who had a great Classics only junkyard in New York.
Sam was quite a guy also.
We have many great stories of both Sam an Jim as well as "Austie" Clarke
Dad was friends with them all !
Many great cars went through his "Sportscar Garage " over the years .
Jim Hoe truely loved these fantastic cars.
He really respected Fred Duesenberg and his racing and engineering design skills.

Jim Hoe and his friends & customers saved many a great Classic; and many a Model "J" Duesenberg !

But it is often forgotten that Jim Hoe loved to race and actually drive these great performance "Sportscars" more than anything !.
They were not museum objects or show car trailer queens to Jim~
They were built to be driven~
And drive them he did with a great passion !

I will never ever forget our many trips to Jim Hoe's "Sportscar Garage" in Ct in the 1950s and 1960s !
Jim Hoe was a great car guy !

Jim Hoe was in reality "Mr. Duesenberg" in the 50s & 60s !

BRAD HUNTER

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17 Nov 2010 05:15 #18433 by silverghost
silverghost replied the topic: Hill Climb "J"s
If you google-search for Arthur James Hoe Duesenberg Hill climb you will find several Sports Car websites that list Jim Hoe , along with long-time early Duesenberg racer/owner Jerry Gebby listed !
There you will see their various race and hill-climb results along with the locations of the race events in the 1950s-1960s ~

Arthur James Hoe~ Better known as~
Jim Hoe raced & hill-climbed both a model"J" & and an "SJ"
Jerry E. Gebby raced and hill-Climbed an" SJ"

There were at least three other fellows who also activly raced Model "J" Duesenbergs in this time period in the 1950s.

I believe that Shappy's model "J" that surfaced unrestored a few short years back was once raced
for a brief time also by Phil Cade !
Then it just sat~
Waiting to be re-discovered !

Where are these great former 1950s race and hill-climb cars today & what condition are they now in today ?

As I mentioned before Jim Hoe , Gebby, Cade, and several other "Sports Car Club of America" boys beat the living daylights out of these model "J" Dueseys !
After all~ Nobody seemed to want them ; and they were almost worthless in the 1950s !

Boy oh Boy~ have times and the car's values changed !

Dad knew most of these Duesenberg racers.
Sadly~
I only knew Jim Hoe !

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17 Nov 2010 16:35 #18441 by Josh Malks
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In your ACD Club Archive DVD, using "Search all issues", enter "Gebby" and "Hoe". Lots to see there.

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17 Nov 2010 20:12 #18447 by silverghost
silverghost replied the topic: Not an ACD Club Member
JOSH:
I just joined your great foum a very short time ago and am not an ACD club member~
As a result I do not have access to the archive DVD !

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17 Nov 2010 21:10 #18450 by oldbanger71
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I would think that even you as a non-member can buy tha ACD-archiev-DVD.
Contact :
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But let you be told; you will never experience more support, clubman-ship and knowledge for so little money in any other car club !
The DVD was made to not loose the knowledge from the past 57 years but knowledge is not stopping there, it lives on up to today's technics sources
and last but not least inovative clubmembers, who develop replacement parts for those you can't buy anymore or those that often fail ..... do i need to say more ? This club offers me all this for a fraction that a Rolls Royce club, or similar, asks without this support for the same money. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

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18 Nov 2010 05:15 #18458 by Justin Kerns
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Just want to clarify and inform everyone that the Newsletter DVD can now be purchased directly from the club estore by looking here: http://shop.acdclub.org/

In agreement with the other comments - I can't say enough to recommend this invaluable resource!

Everyone should look at the estore if you haven't lately. It has been updated recently and there is more to come!

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