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09 Sep 2014 04:01 #28150 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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To insure a great jacking position on the front end. It is my opinion to place the jack stands on the trailing arms just in front of the joke. This will insure not to harm the rubber Dagmars mounted on the frame sides. "You do know what Dagmars are" 57 Caddy have good looking one".

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08 Sep 2014 07:34 #28127 by Kay
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Thanks for the revived discussion!

Let's see this from a logical point of view. Typically a Cord is seated on it's four wheels, which should not make the car bend in an unnatural way.

So if four jack stands are located near the four wheels it shouldn't bend in an unnatural way as well. At the rear I think a positioning directly at the axle should do the job (Ethan, mine is from early February 1937. Late enough for the rear axle with gussets?). At the front, I'm not sure but the stub frame somewhere near the front wheels should be logical, as these points anyway carry the weight (even when the car is on it's wheels).

What do you think, is my line of argument wrong ?

Kay

-since 2012: Cord 812 S/C Custom Beverly
-Palm Beach Tan/Deep Maroon/matching #
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-same owner in Southern California '49-'12

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25 Aug 2014 02:31 #28036 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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I think long term on jack stands are a bad idea. Cars that do not have the later version rear axle with gussets already have a sagging early rear axle. Jack up your car one side at a time never in the middle. You could lift your in the middle add cause the car to bow.Now Jay Leno had a person on his network with a newly invented jack stand that looks pretty good not platium plated though. (after thought) I seen many Cord cars with bad rust within the frame rails just where the rear spring perch is attached, just a thought.

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24 Aug 2014 01:14 #28030 by Mark Tomei
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On a more serious note, you may want to think through long term storage on jack stands. Even perfectly sound cars can bow or sag if your jacking points are not well thought out. I believe the safest method on a Cord is to use six stands. Two on the front suspension, two at the firewall connection of the stub frame and two under each side of the rear axle. This sagging is especially a problem when restoring a car if all of your sheet metal gaps are adjusted while the car is up on stands instead of on it's wheels and tires sitting on a flat surface.

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24 Aug 2014 00:30 #28029 by
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Yup, It happened to my Cord which was on blocks for 2 years with the rear axle, wheels and tires hanging down on the springs. Nothing extreme, but definitely noticeable. I'd suggest placing the stands under the axle itself in the rear if you don't want the stance to change, unless it's temporarily raised.

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23 Aug 2014 15:56 #28028 by Mark Tomei
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Can an ACD car ever have a color too rich, have body filler too thin or have enough $400 jack stands under it?? I think not. I'm holding off until Ethan casts them in platinum....

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23 Aug 2014 07:29 #28027 by Red Brick
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I've been told that the best place to jack up the rear of a Cord with a flat tire is just in front of the springs where there is a cross member (being careful of the gas line on the driver's side). I've also been told that the front can be jacked up in the center under the front spring.

But once the Cord is up, where do you place the jack stands for the front and the rear? For the front, is it reasonable to place them somewhere along the stub frame or at some point along the frame rail? Where is the best place for the rear? Would someone please post a photo or illustration of these points?

Finally, would these super-expensive jack stands ( www.jackpointjackstands.com/ ) be particularly useful or just wasteful for a Cord? They seem to solve the problem of jack stand placement when the jack is in the exact spot you'd like to place the jack stand.

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23 Dec 2013 13:19 #26536 by Kay
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Ethan & Tim: Thanks a lot for your help!

I found four stable 3-ton jack stands with rubber cover for around 100? and will try to place them according to your recommendations.

Season's Greetings!
Kay

-since 2012: Cord 812 S/C Custom Beverly
-Palm Beach Tan/Deep Maroon/matching #
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-same owner in Southern California '49-'12

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13 Dec 2013 13:00 #26483 by Tom_Parkinson
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Hi,

I have my Cord on a lift using four arms.


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13 Dec 2013 03:01 #26480 by Tim Gilmartin
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I have my Cord on a lift using four arms. Would work will with jack stands also. The two rear arms are at the front attachment point of the rear springs; the left front arm is on the frame almost to the rear end of the brake master cylinder and the right arm is opposite the left.
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12 Dec 2013 15:14 #26475 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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The first thing to do is buy yourself a 2500 lb each,set of 4 jack stands. I found a great set at Harbor Freight or Napa store. They sell a hard rubber glove that slips over the top of this stand. For under $100 you get great stands. buy the boots for a tad more and your on your way. This is my suggested placement. On the rear axle and on the front trailing arms. When jacked here you won't brake the rubber Mammaries.

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11 Dec 2013 08:19 #26462 by Kay
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Hi,

My Cord 812 S/C has been in Southern California storage for 60 years before I bought it. After delivery, I initially only took care for the correct storage climate (50% rel. humidity, frost-protection) in my self-built car cocoon. After this works, I now plan to put the car on blocks for further longterm storage.

Can anyone help me identify the best spots to place the car jack and the blocks? Perhaps even with photos?

The second thing is, I'm still wondering whether to use wooden blocks or metal jack stands ? Any known advantages/disadvantages besides the price?

Thanks a lot for your help!
Kay

-since 2012: Cord 812 S/C Custom Beverly
-Palm Beach Tan/Deep Maroon/matching #
-unrestored " Sleeping Beauty " condition
-same owner in Southern California '49-'12

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