WHEEL WIDTH OF CORD 810/812's

Hi,

Bill, did you have a specific year and make of the truck for which these wheels were originally designed and made to fit? Or did you order strictly by size?

--Tom

Finally! The wheels and tires are on. No more bug-eyed hubcaps .... The next step is to replace the rear axle and springs to get the wheel tracking correct and to fix the ride height.



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Balin,

That certainly is a unique way to fasten your hubcaps.....

You have a good idea with these wheels. Are the width and height and offset, correct or close for 6.50x16"? Do they come powder coated for the 150$ price?

All of the measurements are right for MY axles. The key is to have the new wheel sit in the same spot as the one that was already there. My tires didn't rub before and I hope they don't rub now. My wheels are the correct width. 7" outside, about 6.5" inside. Look at the 10 lug holes on my wheels. There are two different bolt patterns there. I have to put a mark on the right set so that I am not constantly fumbling around in the dark.



Stockton Wheel is shipping me some very thin beauty rings that sit deep in my wheels. I have 4 tabs welded to my Cord hubcaps at 12, 3, 6 & 9 oclock positions. I plan to screw the tabs into the rings and then use the beauty rings to hold the hubcaps in the wheels.

This is the same setup as I have now, except everything should fit better. I also have chrome-colored tie wraps for "insurance".

I will have to black powdercoat the rings when they come in (IF they fit right!).

So far, my 5 wheels and 5 beauty rings are about the cost of one Cord wheel, so I won't be throwing away too much when my Cord axles come in.

Hi BH,

You have a good idea with these wheels. Are the width and height and offset, correct or close for 6.50x16"? Do they come powder coated for the 150$ price?

On my old sled I use these re-pop covers that are at least twenty years old. They lack the connecting ring to the wheel that makes a lighter cap and will be easier to balance the wheel.

The way it is fastened is with an aluminum strap bent to the height of the cap and the wheel is drilled and tapped for 8.32 screws with a hole in the center of the cap with a 11/16 chrome bolt that holds the cap to the strap.

It works very well and it keeps me from struggling with the factory caps that are much harder to remove while I am doing repairs.

I cant see how you could weld the original retaining rings on the new wheels now they are finely powder coated.

I think what you have is fine!!! The only thing is when they walk by, the hub caps hitting them in the shin, makes them look down at the wheels!!!

Ultimately I will have them. I am going to have to gut a sedan to do it however. I need the engine and stub frame, plus I need the axles. That's further down the road. I am trying to get the LOOK correct at this point. The only thing I am wasting will be these new wheels. The tires should fit Cord wheels just the same.

I will measure from the lip to the crest of the dome. I think I am pretty darned close. You will be able to see through the hubcap because there is nothing behind it!

I have seen guys who modified hubcaps to go into 15" wheels and it looks CLOSE but you can still tell. I think you are going to have to look real close to spot the difference on mine.

What I really want is for someone to walk by and not pay attention to the wheels when I am in a lineup with everyone else.

Would it not be cheaper (and less stressful) to order Cord axles that fit? Both of my Beverlys hub caps only stick out 3.25 inches from the edge of the bead of the wheel to the crest in the middle of the hub cap. Are you going to have the same look with these wheels? I guess it will look different after you install the tire!!! What about not seeing through the wheel from each hole in the hub cap?

I just ordered 5 225/75/R16's from Diamond Back. These will be mounted on new wheels from Stockton Wheel which have been powder coated black.

The trick will be to mate Cord Hubcaps to these wheels, but I have two weeks to get that done before the tires arrive.

Hi Charles,

Because I do not have real Cord axles yet, I needed to find modern wheels that would work with my Convertible Coupe and at least look right.

Step 1 is to look for a 16" rim. That's obvious since Cord hubcaps were designed for 16" wheels.

Step 2 is to get a wheel with the right bolt pattern for your axles. My axles have a 5 on 5 pattern. I messed up my measurements twice so I finally took one of my wheels in and let a local shop do the measurments themselves.

Step 3 is to get a narrow rim for that antique look. We all have to deal with the same space restrictions under the fenders. The narrowest wheel that I could find is a 6" wide wheel. According to Josh Malks and some of the others that should be close enough.

Step 4 is getting the right offset. You need to order a FWD or "front wheel drive" wheel. That has a 4" cavity on the inside and 1 1/2" on the outside. This is about as close as we can get. This is going to give you a slightly wider stance than a Cord with the right running gear. But it will be close. The hubcaps should sit down into the wheel so about 1/2 of the holes are submerged.

Once you have your wheels, you have to find a way to mount your Cord hubcaps to them. You will have to be creative here. I sent one of my Cord hubcaps into Stockton Wheel to let them take a look at it. I don't have a solution yet, but I am sure I can figure out something.

Now you should be able to order the same size radials that other Cord owners are buying. I am going to order one tire first and try it all the way around my car first. It's very tight under the rear fenders so I am buying one first to check things out.

I am working with Rob J. at Stockton Wheel Service.

Stockton Wheel Service
648 W. Fremont St.
Stockton, CA 95203
(800) 395-9433

Right now, it looks like the Explorer 72 series wheels will be the best. The ones we get won't be anywhere as deep as the picture, so don't panic.

The SWS 4x4 Special is manufactured in sizes ranging from 15 to 17-inch diameters and is available in various widths from 15x4 to 17x9-inches. Available in 15", 16" and 17" with custom offsets in bolt circles for all Chevy, Chrysler, and Ford vehicles. White, black, silver and chrome finishes.



They are being black powdercoated. Delivered cost should be about $150.00 per wheel.

MORE INFO HERE

For the rims you ordered, could you post the part number or complete dimension? Also the contact info for the wheel company. I have been looking for some low cost rims cause I can afford the repos. That price sounds great!

The 7 inch figure quoted would be the width including the center of the wheel that protrudes out from the edge of the rim.

And Josh said it correctly, wheel widths are measured at the inside edge of the rim where the bead of the tire seats. The outside measurement can vary greatly depending on the type of wheel and thickness of the metal.

The inside width affects how the shape of the tire tread will end up. This is why the wheel width refers to the inside to inside measurement. A narrow wheel will bow the tread up more and need less air pressure, while a wider wheel will need more pressure for the tread to run flat against the pavement.

You can see this effect by taking an unmounted tire and use your hands to spread the beads apart. Watch the tread move.

-Maurice

So, bead to bead was 5.75 and the outside measurement was 7"?

Is there a 4" offset or therabout? The bolt pattern is 5 on 5 I believe.

I just picked up some 16x6's from Stockton Wheel. 5 on 5. I sent them a Cord hubcap so they could make sure there is a way to mount them to the wheels.

I thought 125.00 each (black powder-coated) wasn't too bad a deal. Should tide me over until I need the real things.

Jim is right about the measurement across the rim. But the wheel folks use an internal measurement --- on a Cord that's 4 1/2.

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The width of the rim is 5 3/4"

The overall width is 7"

I hope this helps.

By the way how is everything in Texas these days.

Jim

I know Cords had 16" diameter wheels, but what is the actual width of the wheels?