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14 Sep 2017 16:20 #33558 by Terry
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Sorry Pete I should have said Tom

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07 Jun 2017 22:50 #33122 by Terry
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This only applies to all vehicles in Ontario with hydraulic brakes.
Mechanical and cable brakes do not have hydraulic brake lines.
Pete you live in Ontario you can check this out for yourself.
Have a nice day gents.

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06 Jun 2017 15:41 #33121 by Tom_Parkinson
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LOL, Mike.

With brakes, two cylinders are better than one.

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04 Jun 2017 21:30 #33113 by mikespeed35
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Does that apply to old cars? What about cable brakes or Model T and A Fords?
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01 Jun 2017 19:37 #33101 by Terry
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In Ontario you are not allowed to use copper lines on brakes.Let us know what type front disc brakes you use. Also some pics.

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18 May 2017 15:37 #32995 by Tom_Parkinson
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I use Cunifer brake lines. For years I was frustrated with steel lines and the inability of my auto-parts store flaring tool to make a decent double flare. Finally I bought an Eastwood professional flaring tool. Not cheap, but after I made the first flare I didn't care about the cost. It has never made a defective flare in Cunifer or steel.




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With brakes, two cylinders are better than one.

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18 May 2017 11:48 #32994 by Curt Schulze
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Hard to seal flairs are due to work hardening when flairing. Heat and quench, they will seal easily..

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18 May 2017 04:04 #32989 by mikespeed35
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I have found Cunifer bends very nicely but is hard to get to seal. I would still us it though.
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17 May 2017 12:02 #32980 by Curt Schulze
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Steel brake lines rust, copper or cunifer does not.

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16 May 2017 00:37 #32962 by ilikescars
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I would also love to see if someone has installed this on a 34-36 Auburn. If so, offer a schematic.
My 72 Chevy dump truck blew a line and I ran into a school bus. (Buses are well built , broken tail light on the bus, but the front clip on my truck was caved-in)

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15 May 2017 11:13 #32951 by Curt Schulze
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If you are looking for an original 34-36 master cylinder that has been bored and has a stainless steel sleeve inserted and a proper kit , it is available. send me a PM

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14 May 2017 15:06 #32947 by Thomas Wilcock
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I agree that what the original engineers designed is probably best. Because new original parts are are no longer available to replace worn out or broken originals the only options available are using worn original parts (that were removed for a reason) or modern parts that can be adapted to match or better the performance of the originals. Tom

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13 May 2017 22:22 #32946 by mikespeed35
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I have found that the people who have done the least "improvements" on their cars have the least trouble on tours! As Henry Portz once told me, most problems with old cars are caused by the owners.
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13 May 2017 17:19 #32945 by johnmereness
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I have seen plenty of people try to re-engineer and find car stops worse - there is some engineering as to bore diameters and ...and discussion regarding proportioning c=vales is a good one. You can get a dual cylinder to all work incredible, but it does take some thought.

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13 May 2017 12:05 #32940 by Thomas Wilcock
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Thank you for your response. I do have a proportioning valve. I also have a residual check valve. Because the master cylinder is at the same level or below the wheel cylinders this prevents the wheel cylinders from leaking back to the master cylinder. Tom

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12 May 2017 12:30 #32927 by Tom_Parkinson
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Hi,

If you are going to go to a combination for disc and drum brakes, you should install an inline proportioning valve. The pressure requirements for discs and for drums are different. Proportioning valves are available at Jegs and Summit Racing. Jegs offers them at:

www.jegs.com/pt/Brake+Proportioning+Valve/4294959029

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With brakes, two cylinders are better than one.

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12 May 2017 10:44 #32925 by Thomas Wilcock
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I realize that a dual master cylinder is a modern feature. I plan on using disc brakes on the front which is also a modern feature. I don't think a disc/drum combination is good with a single master cylinder. I plan to drive my car in modern traffic so I feel modern features should add to the safety of me and my car. I do not plan to ever have my car judged but will preserve as many original features as possible while allowing me to enjoy driving it in today's environment. Tom

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11 May 2017 17:56 #32916 by Tom_Parkinson
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Hi John,

That's true.
However, you need only ONCE to have a brake line rupture to see the wisdom of having a dual system. I know--been there.
BTW--I just sold a 2007 truck with 179,000 miles. The next day a brake line failed. The new owner was able to stop safely.

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With brakes, two cylinders are better than one.

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11 May 2017 14:36 #32905 by johnmereness
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Not to throw an iron in the fire, but more or less the whole World ran on single master cylinders for 30 to 50 years.

JMM

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03 May 2017 13:01 #32864 by Thomas Wilcock
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I used a 1969 Cougar/Mustang on my 1937 812 Cord under restoration. I used the original mounting bracket and made a 3 bolt to 2 bolt mounting adapter and had to make a thin tapered shim to move the back of the master cylinder away from the frame. Tom

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02 May 2017 12:38 - 02 May 2017 12:39 #32863 by Tom_Parkinson
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Here's one on my 37 Cord Sedan. The only issue is to have a bracket made for it. Came from JEGS.COM.

With brakes, two cylinders are better than one.

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02 May 2017 04:56 #32860 by 1748 S
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I know it was done on a 36 cord sedan.

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01 May 2017 21:37 #32858 by Terry
Has anyone put a dual master cylinder on a 34 to 36 Auburn. If so what cyl did you use.

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