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24 Nov 2010 15:00 #18530 by alsancle

proscriptus wrote: Not even his beautiful (urk) Continental?


The drawing on top perfectly illustrates how I feel. FLW's car styling is just as bad as his architecture.

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23 Nov 2010 17:43 #18522 by proscriptus
Not even his beautiful (urk) Continental?


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23 Nov 2010 17:39 #18521 by alsancle
I'm probably in the minority but I've never seen anything that FLW was associated with that I liked. Just a taste thing I guess.

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23 Nov 2010 15:37 #18519 by proscriptus
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Dateline: Chicago, October 13, 1934. Chicago Tribune.



No word on how the suit turned out; probably settled out of court. Meryle Secrest's Frank Lloyd Wright adds, "Wright merely made his way into Madison and continued his journey by train."

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15 Nov 2010 11:29 #18399 by silverghost
There is a great true story that can help give you all get the general mind-set of Frank Lloyd Wright's thinking and dealings with customers.

A wealthy society woman was having a grand gala to celebrate the grand opening of her new Wright designed home.
During the big party it suddenly started to rain.
Soon water was dipping on one of her male guests.
Frantic the woman called Mr Wright to tell him about the leaking roof !

After telling him about the leak she then asked Mr. Wright what she should do ?

Without pausing a beat Frank replied~
"Tell your guest to move his chair ! "

He then abruptly hung-up on his wealthy patron.


Point of fact ~
Many of Frank Lloyd Wrights most famous houses and celebrated building designs leak heavily to this very day~
They always have~

And Frank Lloyd Wright did not care one bit about this !

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28 Jan 2009 21:27 #12578 by clydester
I was in the vicinity of Wright's Oak Park, Illinois, home last weekend and thought I'd stop by for a tour. Although I've been there several times, there always seems to be something I missed previously. Unfortunately, the last tour had already left so I took a slow alk thru the very nice gift shop. One newer book caught my eye,"Wright in New York City" and revolved around his stay while working on the Guggenheim Museum project. I'd read previously that he had worked Max Hoffman into giving (or loaning?) him a Mercedes which was kept in the hotel garage.
The New York book showed Wright standing next to TWO MB's which it said he'd got from Hoffman. One was a gullwing and the other a large sedan of about the same vintage. I'd think that most Gullwings built are probably still in existence. Wonder if Wright's is still around??? In red, of course. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

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16 Jul 2008 02:05 #10706 by Chris Summers
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I was digging through a recently-acquired (thanks Rocky!) mixed-bag of old newsletters, and in Issue 10, 1999, discovered a newspaper article supplied by Mary Jane Hamilton on the crash:

WRIGHT, WIFE ESCAPE IN CRASH; 1 HURT

Fost Choles, Madison florist, was hurt and Frank Lloyd Wright, noted Spring Green architect, escaped injury this morning when their cars collided at Lakeview, on the Oregon Road. The two cars skidded about 60 feet after the crash, the sheriff's office reported.

Mr. Choles' truck was overturned and badly damaged. Mr. Choles was taken to the Methodist hospital and later to his home. He suffered head injuries.

Mr. Wright's car was considerably damaged about the headend. He and his wife and a friend, John Howe, were on their way to Chicago where Mr. Wright is to deliver a lecture tonight. None of them was injured and Mr. Wright returned to Madison and went to Chicago by train.

Mr. Choles reported to the sheriff that he was turning off the Oregon Road onto the highway leading to Stoughton when the Wright car struck his truck.

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10 May 2008 01:40 #10040 by Chris Summers
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Hmmm...well he had his priorities in order now didn't he.

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10 May 2008 01:19 #10039 by cbsIII
"The necessities were going by default to save the luxuries until I hardly knew which were necessities and which luxuries".Frank Lloyd Wright 1867-1959 Autobiography (1945) bk.2 pg 108

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26 Feb 2008 10:38 #9575 by Chris Summers
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Here's the info plaque and photos of the Foundation car from my visit to the museum last summer. Notice the missing golf bag door on the passenger side.








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26 Feb 2008 01:14 #9574 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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Randy, could you fill me in on the details. Of coarse I should have gone to you first, Mr. ACD. Your a good man!!

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24 Feb 2008 16:35 #9571 by clydester
After having recently read "The Fellowship" and gaining more insights into the mental workings of Wright's widow.....can't help but wonder if she was an early version of those taking advantage of the deceased's notoriety and putting his "mark" on everything/anything laying around just to increase it's value at sale time???

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23 Feb 2008 01:15 #9561 by RandyEma
Ethan It belongs to the A-C-D mueseum.

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22 Feb 2008 21:38 #9558 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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Jack, Thank you for the great response, I now have all my ducks in a row.My L-29 Serial # correction is 2929922. Who owns this car today, can anybody help with this. Regards Ethan

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22 Feb 2008 05:20 #9553 by Jonathan Richards
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I believe I can respond with some authority to the question posed by
Ethan Allen Turner earlier this evening regarding the "logo" affixed to
the passenger's side of the windshield of L-29 Cord Cabriolet , in orange
attire displayed at the ACD Automotive Museum { S# 2925791 , Engine
#FDA1191 and Body #F189}. When my late father Jonathan Richards
purchased this vehicle in the fall of 1961 at Spring Green, Wisconsin
he dealt with FLW's son-in-law Wesley Peters. The vehicle was titled in
the name of the FLW Foundation at the time of my father's aquisition.
The "Wright Logo" was affixed to the windshield when purchased by my
father AND ( another interesting twist and point of controversy ) the golf
door on the right quarter of the body was in place. In fact, the wood was
very deteriorated both in the golf door and the surrounding door frame
and my father acquired a used but extremely good golf door from some
club member; I think it may have been Ralph McCain (sp?) or Mr. Jerry
Coburn , names which will be familiar to old timers of the club. That golf
door went with the car when sold to Homer Weiss of Florida. Dave Samuels
acted as buying agent for Mr. Weiss and proceded to restore the vehicle
for Mr. Weiss. The year referred to by Mr. Turner, when Samuels brought
the car to the Fall Festival for judging, was 1981. My father rode in the
rumble seat of the car during the parade. I distinctly recall Dave Samuels
saying that they did not replace the windshield glass in the course of the
restoration, so as to preserve the "Wright Logo". We have an 8 mm film
of the vehicle when it arrived and was unloaded in Red Oak, Iowa as well
as a number of black &amp; white photographs of the car which clearly show
the "logo" in place. William Wesley Peters died of a massive stroke in July
of 1991, so we cannot ask him , but I have the impression that these
"Wright Logos" were put on any number of motor vehicles owned
by the FLW Foundation. The master architect didn't really give a damn
about automobiles but Wes Peters was a real car nut. Hope this response
will answer Ethan's question and promote some re-thinking as to the prov-
enance of the "FLW L-29 Cab". Best Regards, Jonathan (Jack) Richards
at Red Oak, Iowa aka <a href="mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

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22 Feb 2008 00:43 #9550 by ETHAN ALLEN TURNER
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Do not remember the year at Auburn, Dave Samuel's of the famed '37 Cord Replica out of Florida, who made about ten Cords not to bad looking. Well, to get on with what I wanted to say was that Dave brought his reported (L-29 orange Cabriolet)to be, the Frank Loyd Wright car for judging and at that time it had the Wright Logo on the passenger side windshield, I often wondered about its authenticity, can any body help with this notion and put it to rest for me. I think I still had my original black 1932 L29 Cab, serial # 29922 Listed in Club records.

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19 Feb 2008 16:15 #9544 by clydester
You jogged my memory about Joel Silver. I read another book last year on his restoration of a Wright home in the southeast. Now that you mention it there was a blurb about his Wright car(s). The home was a Wright version of a southern plantation.

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18 Feb 2008 20:57 #9542 by Chris Summers
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Domino's headquarters is still there, but the car isn't. It and the other, stock Wright Continental are owned by movie producer Joel Silver, who also "collects" Wright houses. I imagine Monaghan shed the car with the rest of his collection in 1992.

The story I read in a long-ago Hemmings was that that Continental had been wrecked by Wright's daughter, and the Ideal Body Shop, near Taliesin East, made the modifications, including the missing rear window, while rebuilding it.

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18 Feb 2008 20:45 #9541 by clydester
I just finished another book with the topic being Tom Monaghans (sp?) corporate headquarters up in rural Michigan. the building was patterned after an unbuilt Wright project. In it is a museum of the mission/Wright furniture that's been bought over the years. Included is Wright's Lincoln Continental (one of the two he got from Henry Ford??), painted red with custom design by Wright. I don't know how or why anyone would want to drive that car. The ENTIRE back window was closed over and the rear side window's shapes were converted to half circles. Maybe Wright should have stayed away from car design afterall.

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03 Feb 2008 21:44 #9406 by Jonathan Richards
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Club Members:
I misspoke in my post to this thread earlier this afternoon. Production
of the Cabriolet { Sportsman ] body style in the Cord Model 810 began in
May of 1936, NOT 1935. Therefore the Cord which made the caravan from
Wisconsin to Arizona in the "dead of winter" in early 1935 could Not have
been the Model 810. I am sure the "long gray Cord" which made the trip
was the L-29 Phaeton Sedan shown in the accident photos , after it had
been "repaired" in the course of which it was also repainted.
Chris Summers wonders whether the L-29 Phaeton Sedan was located
at Taliesin, WI when my father purchased the Florida Orange cabriolet
in the fall of 1961. I rather doubt it. I think my father would have made
some mention of another L-29 had one been present or he was told by
Wes Peters about the car. Wes did tell my father about the Duesenberg
Brunn Riviera Phaeton J-521 (now J-440) / 2550 which Dad failed to buy
when it was offered at $10,000. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision. The J
Duesenberg was at that time (1961) stored at Taliesin West in Arizona.
I look forward to more input from members on this interesting post.
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03 Feb 2008 20:51 #9405 by Chris Summers
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Always good to hear your research, Jack. It's been too long since we've heard from you.

I've seen (and I'm sure 99% of the people reading this have seen) classic cars in much worse condition than the wrecked Wright L-29 get restored. I'm sure in 1933 there would have been the parts available, from a scrapyard or otherwise, to put the car back together in time for the 1935 caravan.

If the 1935 car was the 1933 car, it would be interesting to know what happened to it afterwards. I wonder if it was sold by Wes Peters at about the same time he had the red L-29 and Duesenberg for sale.

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03 Feb 2008 20:14 #9404 by clydester
You just might be correct in assuming the 33 and 35 Cords were the same car. The Wisconsin to Arizona trip was in early 1935 and in the dead of winter. Wright said that in the future, they should get an earlier start and avoid some of the winter travel problems. Too bad there isn't a compilation of any book references on cars and Wright. Each book (as I mentioned the Crosley armada in another book on Wright) seesm to have various car tales.
A couple anecdotal stories from "The Fellowship." Wes Peters was one of the apprentices that drifted in and out of Wright's life. He ended up marrying Wright's stepdaughter and returned to Taliesen. She was killed in a Jeep flipover on the property. After Wright's death, his widow resumed life at Taliesen, quite often thru questionable methods. Joe Stalin's daughter had fled to the US and had written a couple successful ($$$$$) books on life in the USSR under her father's regime. Wright's widow lured her to Taliesen with their common Russian background. She then fixed up the Russian with Wes Peters and pushed them into marriage so she could pick the girl's bank acccount apart.
Sex at Taliesen was almost communal. The apprentices were not supposed to be having romances with the local farmgilrs nor viisit a house of ill repute in nearby Spring Green. Many of the apprentices were gay so their "needs" were taken care of without leaving the grounds. Wrights wife tried to arrange relationships between the straight males and the gays. Basically, it was "Try it. You might like it." Wives who lived on the property were encouraged to "spread it around." Charles Laughton, the actor, was a friend of Wright's and gay. He especially enjoyed his trips to Taliesen. There was never any evidence that Wright himself was ever a switch hitter.
The apprentices in the Fellowship paid Yale like tuitions and were, for the most part, free labor. Most didn't see the inside of the drafting room for a couple years, IF they stayed that long. Typically, they took care of livestock, cooked or worked on the buildings.
Hate to get off the car track but it's quite a story on an American icon.

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03 Feb 2008 19:35 #9402 by Jonathan Richards
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ACD Club Members:
It has been some time since my initial posting to this interesting thread
on our club website. Since my posting there have been numerous contribu-
tors to this thread , most focusing on the vagaries of the life &amp; architectural
work of Wright the architect. All of this is interesting , but I would like to once again focus on the question of the ID of the L-29 involved in the 1933
accident. Forum Contributor Clyde Cleinmark ( aka Clydester ) has made
reference to his reading of a work entitled "The Taliesin Fellowship" or some such title. In his most recent post Cleinmark quotes a section from
the book in which it is reported that a caravan of automobiles made a trip
from Wisconsin to Taliesin West in Arizona in the winter of 1935. It is said
that the trip was delayed because of mechanical problems with Wright's
Cord automobile and there is reference to mechanical breakdown of the
same Cord enroute to Arizona. There is a quote provided by Mr. Cleinmark
respecting "Mr. Wright's long gray Cord" indicating it had been repainted
prior to the trip in question. The black and white photographs of the car
at the 1933 accident scene, earlier posted to this thread , shows the car
to have been a light color, perhaps original. At least at the time of the
alleged 1935 repaint it was NOT done in red , Taliesin or whatever other
shade.I would like to refer interested students of this interesting thread to
a book entitled "Frank Lloyd Wright's Monona Terrace / The Enduring
Power of a Civic Vision" by David V. Mollenhoff and Mary Jane Hamilton
published in 1999 by The University of Wisconsin Press . The book is now
available through Amazon.com // ISBN 0-299-15500-5. At page 79 there
is shown Figure 2 . 40 entitled "Oh, Those Gorgeous Cords ! " . There are
two photographs of Cord automobiles. To the left upper is the red/orange
painted 1929 L-29 Cabriolet ( previous known ownership history FLW FDN ,
Jonathan Richards [IA], Homer Weiss/ Laurel Weiss Robinson [FL] , and ,
most recently , Richard Munz (WI). This vehicle is on display at the ACD
Automotive Museum at Auburn, Indiana. I discussed this vehicle in my
initial post to this thread, supra. To the upper right is a black and white
photo image of what is represented as a Cord Model 810 owned by Mr.
Wright. The photo is said to have been taken at Taliesin West in Arizona
during the winter of 1938-39. The vehicle shown is a non-supercharged
cabriolet (convertible coupe) sporting black walled tires and fog lamps.
The color of the car is difficult to discern. The gravel shields on the rear
fenders do not appear to have exposed attaching screw heads so this
may be a Model 810. This vehicle appears to have been another Cord
automobile actually owned by Frank Lloyd Wright . Do any of you Model
810/812 enthusiasts know anything about the ID and present whereabouts
of this vehicle?
In conclusion I suggest that the later cabriolet would not have been
referred to as Mr. Wright's long gray Cord. I am inclined to believe that
the L-29 Phaeton Sedan was repaired following the 1933 accident and was
still extant in the winter of 1935 when the caravan travelled from Taliesin ,
WI to Taliesin West , AZ. Comments, anyone? Sincerely, Jonathan (Jack)
Richards at Red Oak, Iowa , aka <a href="mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
P.S.- Since production of the Cabriolet body style commenced in May 1935
FLW could have owned the pictured car in the winter of 1935, assuming
that this time frame is the final months of 1935 and not early months of
the year 1935. I wonder if perhaps the "caravan" was early in 1935 and
the old L-29 was wearing out and not driving too well after the accident
damage was repaired. Perhaps FLW traded the L-29 in on the Model 810
Cabriolet once the L-29 limped its way to Arizona. Food for thought. jr.

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02 Feb 2008 19:13 #9393 by clydester
Just finished reading "The Fellowship." It's a pretty good read and goes into much detail about Frank's life. I came away from it still convinced that Wright was a genius when it came to his work but the book went into great detail about what an a-hole he really was. His last wife was downright bizarre and got even stranger after his death.
Anyway, there's quite a few mentions of cars. Usually, though, it's only a brand name and no detail is provided on detail.
In the winter of 1935, a caravan was assembled to make the trek from Wisconsin to Arizona. Wright's Cord (no detail) created a late start due to needed repairs. There's mention of it also breaking down along the way. One couple drove a "red and gray Graham Paige convertible." Edgar Tafel drove his "freshly waxed and recently repaied Ford cabriolet. Another drove his family's Ford. "Wright's long gray Cord had been freshly painted for the occasion, adding a red square on the right side of the hood near the radiator that made it sing. A giant new red truck had been decorated with a very large red swastika not yet polluted by Hitler."
"Wright had decided that all the girls would travel in his station wagon."
In mid 1935, a female apprentice, had her father visit Taliesen in Wisconsin. "Heinrich Schneider got on famously with Wright. He had invented an automatic transmission back in Switzerland, and now the two agreed to design a new car together, body by Wright, engine by Schneider." There's no more mention of the effort.
In 1926, the Preident of Johnson Wax, Herbert Johnson, met with Wright about designin a new facility if Wisconsin. Afterwards, Johnson recalled, "He insulted me about everything and I insulted him but he did a better job." One of the things they could agree on was cars. "he had a Lincoln Zephyr and I had one."
Wright and Henry Ford had met in 1909 about a possible design for Ford's new home. They became mutual admirers. "In 1940, when Ford developed the exclusive Lincoln Continental Cabriolet V12, he had a rendering of the car sent to Wright. As a promotion, Ford had offered to give away a number of the new models to prominent Americans, including Wright. When the architect appeared at the Chicago showroom, he demanded two-one for each of his estates-and insisted they be delivered to Talisen repainted in his signature Cherokee red. Ford complied."
Fast forward to the mid 1950's. While working and temporarily living in New York, "In the hotel's basement garage, Wright kept a new Mercedes, a gift from his car dealer client, Max Hoffman."
Upon his death, Wright's body was taken back to Wisconsin in the back of a "Ford Ranchero Station Wagon." That's the one reference in the book that didn't make sense. I think 57 thru 59 Ranchero's were pickup trucks like an El Camino. Maybe it was an older one pre pickup or maybe it was just a regular old station wagon???
That's about it for car references in the book.

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07 Jan 2008 23:35 #9131 by clydester
I'm up to 1926 in the book and it mentions Wright had a Cadillac. No specifics on body style, color, etc.

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27 Dec 2007 22:53 #9008 by sunroofcord
Thanks for posting the names of the Wright books.

We used to know a fellow who owned a Stoddard Dayton.

I recall it being BIG and White.

Believe it was a 1912.

Will have to look thru the old slides and see if I can find a picture.

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27 Dec 2007 21:50 #9006 by clydester
Thanks for the recommendation on the Toker book. I'll keep an eye out for a copy. I'm up to about page 100 on "The Fellowship." Interesting read. Right now the verbage is stuck on the earlier life of his Olgivanna. She was a bit of a nutjob. With all the details in the book, I don't doubt there will be more mention of cars.

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27 Dec 2007 20:06 #9005 by Chris Summers
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Toker's book comes very, very highly recommended. Big, thick read, but worth it.

Back in the pre-PC days of American history, every automaker had a red named after a tribe. Cadillac's was Seminole Red.

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27 Dec 2007 19:57 #9004 by clydester
I've regularly seen the red color that Wright liked referred to as Cherokee Red. I have a 1967 BSA Spitfire motorcycle that has original paint...red and white. The red is referred to in old BSA brochures as Cherokee Red. Coincidence???

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27 Dec 2007 19:54 #9003 by clydester
Funny you mention Henry Ford. I didn't know this until recently but Wright was being considered by Ford to build him a new home. About the same time, wright took off to Europe with Mrs. Cheney. With Ford's money, that would have been quite the house!!!
Speaking of Falling Water....I've been trying to buy books on specific single Wright buildins that gives the history on that building alone. Unfortunately, most of the books on his creations try to be all inclusive and are too general. I find the individual books interesting that they give the history on ONE building and what happened to it after it's "heyday." There's one I see quite often on ebay about Falling Water by a guy named Hoffman. There's also a book regarding the Falling Water owner and Wright. I think it's called "The Prince and the Merchant." The owner regularly got hounded by Wright for money long after Falling Water was completed. Wright thought anyone should feel honored if he asked them for $$$$. What an ego!!!

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27 Dec 2007 14:38 #9000 by Chris Summers
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There were several different Taliesin colors, which figured prominently in the buildings he designed and the furniture he designed to go in them.

There was an exhibit two summers ago at the National Building Museum in D.C. on his only completed skyscraper, Price Tower in Oklahoma. They had a sample book of the colors on display.

Regarding books on him, I read "Fallingwater Rising" by Franklin Toker last summer. Gets into more juicy details of his personal life. Like Henry Ford, he hated just about everything and everyone except himself.

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27 Dec 2007 14:30 #8999 by clydester
The book is "Picturing Wright" by Pedro Guerrero. The car I mentioned earlier and had never heard of was a "bright yellow Stoddard Dayton convertible." He owned it while still living in Oak Park, Illinois, and when he was having an affair with Mrs. Cheney. Must have been about 1912-13. He must not have yet discovered his favorite red.

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26 Dec 2007 21:36 #8994 by clydester
I'm reading several different books right now (I bore easily) and don't recall the specific name but will take a look tonight. I'd never seen this particular book on ebay before and grabbed it up. The inside is signed by the author/photographer from 1994 at Taliesin East. I just started reading a pretty new book,"The Taliesin Fellowship." So far, it's pretty impressive. Gets into a lot of the personalities and sexual preferences of "the help." It also mentions cars, one of which I'd never heard of and must have been the first car Wright owned????
One annecdote in the book written by his photographer....Wright would quite often walk around with no money in his pocket. One day he stopped at a diner for lunch and the bill was 85 cents. After eating, he remembered he didn't have any money. The diner owner recognized him and suggested he just sign the back of the meal check and they'd call it even. The next day, Wright returned with the 85 cents. The diner owner said it was no big deal. Wright insisted on paying AND getting the signed check back. "I understand my autograph is currently worth $5."

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26 Dec 2007 19:24 #8991 by sunroofcord
What is the name of the book you are currently reading????

Sounds quite interesting.

Thanks.

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24 Dec 2007 20:54 #8986 by clydester
I've read quite a few books about Wright over the years. One I'm reading now is by his on and off again personal photographer who hooked up with Wright just before WW2. In one picture, the caption reads,"This is one of Wright's expensive cars." It's a forwign car but can't see all of it...might be a British Riley?? In another photo, it clearly shows Wright driving a Crosley convertible. The caption states he was kinda in awe of the little car and bought a fleet for the apprentices to use at his home.
Also in the book is the earlier mentioned Wes Peters and his 40 Merc convertible which he had painted in Wright's favorite shade of red.

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13 Dec 2007 19:26 #8890 by DJT

tmanfred wrote: Here's another angle. Tom
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12 Dec 2007 03:51 #8884 by mikespeed35
In between his designing he left his wife and kids in Chicago to marry his mistress and didn't like to pay his bills.
CORDially Mike

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11 Dec 2007 03:19 #8863 by tmanfred
Here's another angle. Tom
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10 Dec 2007 14:46 #8857 by Chris Summers
Replied by Chris Summers on topic Frank Lloyd Wright Crash, Wisconsin, November 13, 1933
In the days before cell phones, leading in-car distractions included small children, animals on the road, and designing Fallingwater...

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10 Dec 2007 08:08 #8854 by Jonathan Richards
Replied by Jonathan Richards on topic Just What Cord L-29 Did Frank Lloyd Wright Own??
We are indeed fortunate that this pair of photographs has been posted on
our ACD Club website. For years there has been mis-information abroad
leading to mistaken claims and disputes regarding "The Frank Lloyd Wright
L-29 Cord" Many of you are familiar with and have seen the orange color
L-29 Cabriolet displayed on the first floor of the ACD Museum. The display
placards indicate a connection with the famous architect Wright. In truth ,
this connection is indirect at best inasmuch as this cabriolet was purchased
by Mr. Wright's son-in-law William Wesley Peters as a well used car from an East Coast owner in the 1950s. My late father Jonathan Richards saw
the car at Spring Green , Wisconsin in the fall of 1961 and purchased the
car from the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation , in whose name the car was
titled. The transaction was handled by Wes Peters from whom we have
correspondence regarding the sale and the car's history. My father's
purchase of the cabriolet was subsequent to Wright's death in a Phoenix , Arizona hospital on April 9, 1959. My father's deteriorating health preven-
ted his completion of the restoration and he sold the car to Homer Weiss
of Florida. Mr. Weiss employed Dave Samuels of Southeast Replicars to
restore the car to its present form. Subsequent to the death of Homer Weiss his surviving daughter Laura Weiss Robinson sold the car to a man
from Madison, Wisconsin and it was later displayed at the ACD Museum in
Auburn, Indiana. At the time of purchase by my father the car was painted Taliesen Red which Wright painted all his collector cars including a
Model J Duesenberg Brunn Riviera Phaeton J-521 / 2550 ( now with engine
J-440 ) and his customized Lincoln Continental. ID on the cabriolet are
Engine #FDA1191, Serial # 2925791 and Body #F 189. The question to be
answered is what were the ID numbers on the phaeton sedan involved in
the accident in Wisconsin on 11-13-1933. This is the real Frank Lloyd
Wright L-29 Cord. Does it still exist and who owns it ? Let's hear from the
L-29 Cord owner fraternity. Jonathan Richards at Red Oak, Iowa aka
<a href="mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

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10 Dec 2007 03:38 #8848 by mikespeed35
Thanks for posting these. I think this is the first time I have seen these photos.
CORDially Mike

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10 Dec 2007 02:47 #8847 by tmanfred
Here is an unfortunate incident involving Frank Lloyd Wright's 1929 L-29 Cord Phaeton and a Choles Floral Company delivery truck.


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