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27 Jan 2020 19:35 #39417 by RandyEma
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Early Forties R

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27 Jan 2020 18:19 #39414 by pete kelly
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Morning Randy
About what year did he throw the original prototype bumper away?
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27 Jan 2020 17:03 #39411 by RandyEma
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To my knowledge just the one. R
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27 Jan 2020 16:53 - 27 Jan 2020 17:08 #39410 by johnmereness
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Randy - how many cars had this bumper or variations of this prior to going to what is known as the traditional bumper we generally all see today ?

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27 Jan 2020 16:44 #39409 by RandyEma
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J111 Lebaron Dual cowl phaeton when purchased by Jim Talmadge (buster Keatons son ) as a sophomore in high school in Santa Monica Calif had the proto type bumper on it which he removed and purchased a used J bumper and installed throwing the prototype bumped away. R
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23 Jan 2020 18:57 - 23 Jan 2020 19:05 #39381 by johnmereness
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Apparently, the same car given license plate number and ... , but cannot make out the year on the license to see the photo was taken - assume post 1941.
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23 Jan 2020 18:55 #39380 by johnmereness
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23 Jan 2020 18:33 #39379 by pete kelly
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I assume this is car J-111.
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23 Jan 2020 16:12 - 23 Jan 2020 19:02 #39376 by johnmereness
Let's talk Model Y and Early J FRONT BUMPERS

This photo surfaced on Facebook recently and a whole bunch of discussion exploded as people quickly called it the Model Y,
BUT IT IS NOT THE Model Y and if you look closely even has a different style top bumper bar than the Model Y.





Note this photo is really of passenger's side - the original negative was "flipped" by the Facebook poster.

So what car are we actually looking at here and why does it sport these bumpers ?

Here is why this is not the Model Y that survives today in Bob Becker's ownership:
The Model Y should have already been converted to its current form by 1941
The Model Y should have been in Indianapolis at this time and not in California.
The car with the 1941 California License Plates sports a flat windshield (the Model Y has a V'ee windshield)
The car with the 1941 California License Plates sports a sculptured Hood and a Sculptured Cowl (the Model Y does not, though does have a center cowl detail)
The car in the photo with 1941 California License Plates sports a louvered radiator shell (the Model Y still sports it's non-louver honeycomb radiator)
The car in the photo with 1941 California License Plates sports bufallo wire wheels (the Y should have already bee converted to its Marmon style wheels)

Not the differences in the bumpers too - the top bar is of different design (spotted by sharp eyes of West Peterson).


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