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15 Feb 2012 18:14 #22209 by Robbie Marenzi
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Metallic paints are older than most people think and were surely used first on the more expensive cars, specially the coach built ones, this is from Hemmings:
"Brighter pigments also arrived during the 1920s, and designers began experimenting with what we now call a "metallic" finish. Georgano tantalizingly mentions "something of a vogue for 'granite' finishes" in 1923-24. The AACA recognizes metallic paint as authentic back to November 1, 1927 (so that Cord's O.K., too); but the judging manual does not elaborate on the significance of that particular date. Beginning in 1932, some European coachworks began to use guanin from herring scales to produce a "pearl essence" effect. True metallics (that is, with bits of shiny metal floating in the binder) reached Europe two years later, and were common by mid-decade."

To read rest of this very interesting story about car painting:http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2005/04/01/hmn_feature15.html

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16 Feb 2012 05:07 #22222 by jrcurtright
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Car 2514 / J-497 (the other Kirchhoff Duesenberg) originally had a metallic finish: http://duesey186.com/Datasheets/Model_J ... rm2514.htm

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16 Feb 2012 16:16 #22226 by Josh Malks
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The 1936 Cord (and Auburn too, I believe) offered a metallic color called "Cadet Gray". The name was followed by "(Luminescence)", indicating metallic.

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16 Feb 2012 17:47 #22229 by alsancle
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I don't particularly like metallic on a prewar car, but my issue here is not with the metallic so much as the color.

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05 Sep 2012 11:05 #23417 by landmark
landmark replied the topic: Re: Franay bodies

landmark wrote:

Bob Roller wrote: Fine looking cars. I like the sedan but the built in roof leak
we call a sun roof today would have to go. Does either car exist today in any form? Isn't there another Franay bodied car here in the USA---J365(maybe)?.
Is here any record on the survival of these Eurobodied Duesenbergs? How many went to Europe to begin with.I heard around 60 but are there any firm numbers??

Bob Roller



Hello Bob,

here it is. Car 2385, should be J-365, Franay Sports Berline (with sunroof) will be auctioned @Dan Kruse auction in Rosanky TX on 3rd of march 2012.

http://www.kruseclassics.com/index.cfm? ... O12&lot=83


Matt



The car will be offered again at an auction next week:

http://www.kruseclassics.com/index.cfm? ... A12&lot=65


Matt

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24 Sep 2012 16:44 #23639 by West Peterson
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Referencing metallic paints: Too many prewar cars look like they were restored in a bass-boat factory. The metallic pigments should be barely discernible.
The Cadillac show-car reference is correct, thus the AACA's acceptance of metallic from November 1927.

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