Duesenberg Model J visit Birthplace of Fred & Augie

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08 Jul 2011 21:53 #20435 by landmark
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Hello,

I found a link to some photos taken at a visit of a Model J at the Farm-Cottage in Kirchheide, where Friedrich & August D?senberg were born and spent their first years.

http://www.kirchheide.de/navigations-fr ... rg2007.htm The last seven pictures were taken at the Duesenberg Cottage. It is now owned by a teacher (I guess), he has been restoring the whole cottage by and by.

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Matt

P.S.: Before someone asks :DThe car would be J-219, it is under offer by a dealer from the Netherlands for years.

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12 Jul 2011 16:43 #20481 by Bob Roller
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Matt,
Do you know if this car has been in Europe from new or did it come over at a later date? The artikel was interesting and most unusual. Thanks for posting it.

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12 Jul 2011 17:43 #20483 by landmark
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Bob Roller wrote: Matt,
Do you know if this car has been in Europe from new or did it come over at a later date? The artikel was interesting and most unusual. Thanks for posting it.

Bob Roller


Hello Bob,

as I know the car was in the 70s and 80s in the USA. It was Winner Pebble Beach 1981.
The car was topic in an other thread here in 2006: http://forums.acdclub.org/phpbb2/viewto ... 07619bd2d7

It sounds that there are some "black holes" in history of that car.

I have heard that it was offered by Bonhams at the Retromobile fair auction in Paris in 2009. The estimate was about 1.75 Mio Euro ( 2.45 Mio $). The highest bit would be at 1.35 Mio Euro (1.9 Mio $), the car was not sold.

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.s ... ineNo=4011

I think for a Murphy (Standard Top) convertible coupe without a complete history documentation 1.9 Mio $ is a lot of money.

Matt

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12 Jul 2011 19:38 #20486 by alsancle
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12 Jul 2011 20:04 #20489 by Chris Summers
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Hi Matt,

The more you study these cars, the more you'll learn not to believe everything you see. Take it as advice from someone's that been there. :D

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12 Jul 2011 21:08 #20490 by landmark
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Chris Summers wrote: Hi Matt,

The more you study these cars, the more you'll learn not to believe everything you see. Take it as advice from someone's that been there. :D


I think I got what you and alsancle mean <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

But I can not imagine that such attempts to keep prices high work in a longer therm...

I mean the old game of offer and request will regulate prices in an open market. For to keep prices high (against slowing market request) as a seller, you must decrease the amount of offers, too. I think that can only a monopolist or a trust do...

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