1919 Duesenberg?

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26 Sep 2006 06:45 #5489 by Duesey
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This is a question that has confused me ever since I saw a Duesenberg Model A at Pebble Beach in 2003 billed as a '1919 Duesenberg.' It was a conservative black sedan, coachwork probably by Millspaugh and Irish, and it was originally delivered to Hawaii for a banana tycoon. The car has it's original plates, HI Plate 1, from 1919. Pictures of the car are available [url=http://www.supercars.net/garages/Duesey/31v2.html:30uq6luu]here[/url:30uq6luu].

This of course conflicts with the commonly held fact that Duesenberg didn't start until 1921. So how did a Duesenberg end up at Pebble Beach (listed in the catalog and on the placard) as a 1919. I have recieved many sore responses and uptilted noses from guys who have scoffed at the idea of a 1919 Duesenberg. Any thoughts or information?

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28 Aug 2007 06:09 #7889 by Bryan R. Peterson
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Hi Duesy,

I too was baffled about the origin of this car.

It was explained to me that this chassis was one of if not the only Duesenberg Model A prototypes built before the company was officially launched in 1920, the chassis was bodied by a new carrousier, Bender, Robinson & Co of New York where it was fitted with the stately "Opera Coupe" body before being shipped to Hawaii.

That's as much information as I have on the car, hopefully Randy Ema will pop in and bless us with his knowledge :)

Best Regards,

Brian

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09 Sep 2007 04:48 #7978 by RandyEma
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Hello This car is serial number 600 first production car sold new to Castle of Castle and Cook Co Hawaii in 1922 .Randy

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20 Dec 2010 22:10 #18842 by Chris Summers
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See the new posting, "Photos of Model A 1000 / 602" in this Forum.

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02 Feb 2014 19:45 #26862 by West Peterson
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It seems that every story I see on this car it tells that Samual Nortrup Castle, founder of Castle & Cooke in Honolulu, was the original owner. However, that just doesn't make any sense. S. Northrup Castle was born in 1808 and died in 1894. Is it possible it was his grandson, William Richards Castle Jr., who was born in 1878 and died in 1963. Or another grandson, Harold Castle, who was born in 1886 and died in 1967????

Where did the story that S. Northrup Castle was its original owner begin?

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02 Feb 2014 22:18 #26865 by Tom_Parkinson
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