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23 Aug 2013 12:08 #25786 by JimArneson
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The front headlamps are stamped with the name DIETZ and the number 1409.

I must concur with silverghost here and add... the more time you spend with the camper the less you like it!

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23 Aug 2013 11:17 #25785 by Kay
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I don't think that the ACD Museum would ever let this rusty cobbled-together old "camper" in their doors~~~

I did't say they would, but they should. <!-- s;-) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;-) -->

Can you imagine this "camper" sitting next to a concours show quality Model "J" Duesenberg in that grand old Museum's showroom setting ? ? ?

Not really. But I can imagine a museum which has various separate displays, including unrestored cars and even the sad parts of the brand history like a heavily molested car. I didn't have the pleasure to visit the ACD museum, yet. But I'm sure it doesn't consist of "concours show quality" cars only. Otherwise it wouldn't be much more than a permanent concourse d'elegance which I might find a little one-dimensional compared to other international car museums. But I'm sure it isn't and definitely worth the trip.

Kay

-since 2012: Cord 812 S/C Custom Beverly
-Palm Beach Tan/Deep Maroon/matching #
-unrestored " Sleeping Beauty " condition
-same owner in Southern California '49-'12

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23 Aug 2013 05:34 #25784 by silverghost
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Kay wrote: To be honest: I wouldn't scrap the body. Of course it's ugly as sin and of course it hides the scarce Cord and Auburn parts, which others could use.

On the other hand: which vehicle could better symbolize that there was a time, when our beloved cars were worth close to nothing. A time when in Europe Bugattis were scrapped to use their engines in some agricultural equipment. A time when in the USA Cord L-29s could be scrapped to build campers on their chassis.

I know, many of you will laugh a this suggestion, but in my opinion such a vehicle belongs into the ACD museum. It should be the mission of a brand related car museum to show all aspects of the brand's history. And (whether we like it or not) this camper symbolizes a part of the ACD historys, although it's a sad and extremely ugly part.

History doesn't come beautiful all the time.

Kay


I hate to say it~~~but I will !

I don't think that the ACD Museum would ever let this rusty cobbled-together old "camper" in their doors~~~
Can you imagine this "camper" sitting next to a concours show quality Model "J" Duesenberg in that grand old Museum's showroom setting ? ? ?

I have a Much Better Idea !
Here's is an idea just for Chris ~~~
He likes to dabble a bit at gormet cooking~~

If you painted it Duesenberg engine green, and cut a big wide & high rectangular hole in one side and install an awning, neon Auburn~Cord~Duesnberg Club sign , counter, & fridge + cooking equipment it could be converted into~~~

The "Official" Period & Parts Correct~~~ ACD Club's Mobile Hot Dog & Gormet Pizza Vendor Wagon ~~~

to be used Only during the ACD annual Labor Day weekend meet, show & fest !

And also possibly at the exclusive Pebble Beach Concours~~ If they choose to invite it ! <!-- s;-) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;-) -->

Another Idea~~~
Sell it at this winter's Barrett~Jackson's Scottsdale Auction Event~~ for crazy money ~~as E.L. Cord's own personal L-29 Cord caravan/camper.

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22 Aug 2013 06:52 #25776 by Kay
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To be honest: I wouldn't scrap the body. Of course it's ugly as sin and of course it hides the scarce Cord and Auburn parts, which others could use.

On the other hand: which vehicle could better symbolize that there was a time, when our beloved cars were worth close to nothing. A time when in Europe Bugattis were scrapped to use their engines in some agricultural equipment. A time when in the USA Cord L-29s could be scrapped to build campers on their chassis.

I know, many of you will laugh a this suggestion, but in my opinion such a vehicle belongs into the ACD museum. It should be the mission of a brand related car museum to show all aspects of the brand's history. And (whether we like it or not) this camper symbolizes a part of the ACD historys, although it's a sad and extremely ugly part.

History doesn't come beautiful all the time.

Kay

-since 2012: Cord 812 S/C Custom Beverly
-Palm Beach Tan/Deep Maroon/matching #
-unrestored " Sleeping Beauty " condition
-same owner in Southern California '49-'12

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21 Aug 2013 21:12 #25771 by JimArneson
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Here is the sum total of my information on this Cord camper. A sales receipt from the wrecker service guy my dad bought it from in 1972.


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20 Aug 2013 13:36 #25761 by JimArneson
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A couple more photos of the Cord Camper

The engine has three tappet covers on the drivers side (crappy picture) and a number on the block.

L 19 3 4 77



The extra set of front springs viewed from behind.

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20 Aug 2013 12:22 #25760 by Chad Thomas
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Notice the extra set of lower springs? Appears to be just as many leaves added as in the original set but cannot tell how they are mounted at the axle as the fork lift forks obscure the view.

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20 Aug 2013 06:22 #25758 by silverghost
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Jim~~~

The left fromt headlight on this "Camper Van" looks like it might be a rare Hall brand "Drumlight" that was used on Rolls~Royce Sprigfield and other large autos.
See if anything in engraved on the top of this Drumlight headlight.

I think this "camper beast" would get more attention being parted-out or at the very lest without that ugly "Camper" van body.
Scrap that big body &amp; sell the chassis &amp; parts.

I doubt that a standard auction house would be the best place to sell ANY of these Cord parts ?
I don't think they will bring any real money there ?

ebay auction ~~~Yes~~~but it would take forever to sell + pack &amp; ship everything you have there !

It may be far better to sell the entire parts lot you have to a Cord Culb Member here or a Cord restorer or Cord restoration parts supplier.

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20 Aug 2013 02:27 #25757 by mikespeed35
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Six rods and six spark plugs.
CORDially MIke

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19 Aug 2013 21:28 #25753 by JimArneson
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It looks like I got a couple of numbers in my photo. Are these any help in identifying the engine?

It looks like the top number is 1147. The bottom number is 489212.

I am going back down to the warehouse where the "camper" is stored and will try to get some better pictures tomorrow.

Thank you for taking the time to look at this. I appreciate your help!

Jim

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19 Aug 2013 20:55 #25752 by RandyEma
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this is not a lycoming engine . looks like cord L29 final drive though. R

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I believe that this is an Auburn engine ,but the rest is L-29 Cord.
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19 Aug 2013 19:56 #25750 by JimArneson
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I have been posting information about my late father's (Ted Arneson) collection of Cord automobiles in the 810/812 forum the last few days. I addition to the 1936 and 37 cars I also have what I believe to be an L29 chassis, running gear, and engine & transmission with a crazy old motor home built on top. I am planning to sell most of the collection (including the Cord Camper) at an auction on October 19, 2013. I will include a few photos below along with a link to more in an online album in hopes that some of you might be able to shed a little light on this unique vehicle.

I am also interested in any thoughts you might have about the viability of selling an item like this at auction or other ideas about how to best get this into the hands of someone who will make use of the parts.


Jim Arneson


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