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New to Cords

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17 Jun 2020 12:24 #40374 by rg171352
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I am new to these cars, unless you count beginning the ERTL 1:12 scale Sportsman and building the small Monogram Phaeton when I was around 10 years old. While I've always liked the looks of Cords I only recently joined the ACD after years of dabbling with other antique cars. My interest was rekindled after seeing that Sportsman that ended upon Copart a couple of years ago. At this point, I've decided to start looking for a Phaeton in around 2-4 condition but am realizing how much more there is to learn about this Marque and their values. While I'm not looking for a total restoration or parts car, I also don't want something that is perfect. I would be open to a well done RWD conversion. While there are a million questions I could ask at this point, the best place to begin would be with what I can reasonably expect to spend on such a car.

In looking up some recent Cord Phaeton sales, it seems as though there are some lower outliers in the general sales prices with a few notable examples. Is there any particular reason why the 810 sold at the Petrozzini Estate auction was estimated to sell between 15,000 and 20,000 to finally sell for $42,900? Here is the link to the car: www.mecum.com/lots/CH1019-389017/1936-co...7-nzld41TCntOwNVtf-w Is there really a $15,000 Cord Phaeton?

Thank you for your help!

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18 Jun 2020 00:24 #40380 by 1748 S
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This car needs restoration and finding some missing parts. It actually looks more like a 37 812 car than an 810 36 car. I think the price was correct.


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18 Jun 2020 01:30 #40381 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Hi RG, Welcome to the club and the forums. I'll answer your last question first - There are no $15,000 Cord Phaetons except ones that are only good for some parts. These days a decent driver is going for $100K to $135K.

The best way to learn about these cars is to come to the ACD Meets and talk with the owners. There are a lot to these cars and a lot to maintain. What part of the country are you located in? There are not a lot of shows going on this year and maybe we can hook you up with someone in your area.

I do know where there is a good driver that might be for sale. PM me if you are interested or if you have questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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19 Jun 2020 13:41 #40387 by johnmereness
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Jim is correct:

This is an inducement to get people to bid at an auction with a company that really does not specialize in pre-war cars (ie people will think they can get it cheap and are more likely to bid). RE: Is there any particular reason why the 810 sold at the Petrozzini Estate auction was estimated to sell between 15,000 and 20,000 to finally sell for $42,900? Here is the link to the car: www.mecum.com/lots/CH1019-389017/1936-co...7-nzld41TCntOwNVtf-w Is there really a $15,000 Cord Phaeton?

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24 Jun 2020 13:09 #40414 by alsancle
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The age old collector car issue where you are much better off spending 100k more for a nice car. Of course, it is the cheapest way to say you own an open Cord.
Btw, probably just me but I always say "Cabriolet" and not "Sportsman" since the latter was never used by the company to describe the car.
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24 Jun 2020 21:19 - 24 Jun 2020 21:50 #40417 by Terry Cockerell
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Why all the hype about rag tops?
Too much sun gives you skin cancer.
Sedans are much better cars, you can enjoy the ride in the shade without the tedious job of raising or lowering the top .......... especially if you are on your own.
Josh Malks was a firm supporter of S.O.S. .............. Save Our Sedans! So am I.
Too many of them died and were dismembered to keep the other kind on the road.
Honestly all Cords are wonderful cars.

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Last edit: 24 Jun 2020 21:50 by Terry Cockerell. Reason: Revising text.
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