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14 Jan 2023 21:36 - 15 Jan 2023 00:06 #46677 by Terry Cockerell
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I remember reading a comment from Stan Gilliland when the picture of the S/C phaeton was in an old newsletter. Stan explained that the outward positions of the wiper arms indicated that the engine had probably stalled. There was a positive pressuer which caused the vacuum wipers to reverse. I can't remember the rest. Normally the arms would have been inwards.
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14 Jan 2023 14:58 #46676 by JIM.OBRIEN
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EL, Since this is a factory photo I would have to say both are correct. The only way would be a different wiper motor unless there is a way to switch the park position on a motor - it's been too long since I worked on one.

Notice the tires are not double sided whitewalls - unless this from the colorization process.

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14 Jan 2023 13:12 #46674 by E L
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In the above pics, one shows the wipers parked to the outside of the windshield and the other toward the center . Which is correct? Also, how is this done

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13 Jan 2023 22:09 #46673 by Terry Cockerell
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Sorry Jim I have no idea what the date was.
Curt the colouring process can be difficult to deal with giving mixed results. Some pictures respond perfectly while others look terrible. Attached are two examples which show the difference.
Incredible we were able to zoom in on the first picture to see the face of the man standing at the LHS of the picture. In the Timeless Classic Josh said he was Arthur Landis however it was another executive.




 
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13 Jan 2023 21:50 #46672 by Curt Schulze
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That pix of the 34's looks like the cars were colorized while the background was left black and white
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13 Jan 2023 20:52 #46671 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Hi Terry,
Do you know when in 1934 this photo was taken? The photo says they were all headed for California which is where my Auburn came from. Nice to think my car may be in there somewhere.
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09 Jan 2023 02:14 - 09 Jan 2023 02:17 #46657 by Terry Cockerell
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Curt a friend coloured the attached picture of the 1934 Auburns ready to leave the Connersville Factory. It comes to life in colour and yes the top material was colour coordinated.  


 
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08 Jan 2023 22:44 #46655 by Curt Schulze
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Thanks Fellas !
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08 Jan 2023 21:18 - 08 Jan 2023 21:21 #46654 by Terry Cockerell
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A few years ago I had an article in the newsletter on the sedan roof construction. Yes it was made in seven pieces and welded together then the seams leaded over. The roof could not be done in one single pressing operation. If you look at You Tube films of the Manufacture and Assembly of the 1936 Chevrolet you will see they used a bank of hunge presses to do the sedan roof in a series of operations. It was not done with a single press. Auburn didn't have the funds for such machinery so they did it the best way they could.
The picture shows the leaded seams on a Hupmobile/Cord and the drawing shows a parts section of the roof.



 
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08 Jan 2023 15:41 #46653 by 1748 S
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The 36 and 37 Cord had a piece together roof on Evey sedan. The center was a piece about 4 ft by 6 ft. With the headliner removed you can see the weld line or spot weld line. I recall something like 7 pieces to make up the top of the Cords. It was all leaded in too. The company couldn't afford the dies and press to make even the fenders as one piece. Only two doors were made for the sedans. If you look closely at the doors you can see they are the same but the doors for the back are cut for the wheels.


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08 Jan 2023 15:06 #46652 by Curt Schulze
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Was it many pieces welded together or one large stamping ? It is generaly known that GM was the first one piece roof for sedans in mid 1936.
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07 Jan 2023 21:41 #46651 by Terry Cockerell
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Curt ....................... is this a trick question?
Cord 810 812 sedans have a metal roof.

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07 Jan 2023 18:38 #46650 by Curt Schulze
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I wonder if the 35 - 36 cars had had color choices for the top insert ?
What about 810 - 812 sedans ?
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06 Jan 2023 22:18 #46644 by Terry Cockerell
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Hi Curt it is amazing what can be seen the more you look at these old Factory pictures. I hadn't noticed the roof material as I had focused on the number plates and how many cars were there.
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06 Jan 2023 15:31 #46641 by Curt Schulze
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It appears that the top material for these 34's is color cordinated to the paint schme. I thought the top material was always black ?
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06 Jan 2023 09:21 - 06 Jan 2023 09:30 #46640 by Terry Cockerell
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From the attached pictures it appears that the Auburn Company had quite a stack of M-195 number plates.
The 1934 Auburns are arranged in lines and rows behind the factory buildings on West 18th St, Connersville.
All of the cars at the heads of the lines have the plate M-195, I am "assuming" that the other cars behind them are also fitted with the same plate.
Consequently there would have been around 35 cars with the same plate. If other plates were in use surely they would have showed up. I doubt the guys setting up the cars for the picture would have worried about the plates, considering they were probably all the same.

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25 Mar 2020 20:35 - 25 Mar 2020 20:39 #39840 by Terry Cockerell
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John, in a lot of pictures of people with their cars the owner looks either uncomfortable or awkward. Miss Martell looks as proud as punch. She is tiny too. The women were certainly drawn to these wonderful cars.
My picture was taken in Main St, Hamilton, Ontario in 1939. The lady Trudie Weaver was 24 at the time and she is still going at 104 plus. We visited her in 2018. She had no connection with the car , it belonged to the next door neighbour. I said to her, "You looked a bit apprehensive in the picture". She replied "Yes, the owner Mr Merrill didn't like people getting too close to his car!" It is astonishing what memories and feelings can come to life again. She had just bought a new coat. He brother took the picture, went to war and was killed in action.
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25 Mar 2020 19:01 - 25 Mar 2020 19:01 #39837 by johnmereness
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The proper caption for this photo is: Wilkinson Motor Co., Miss Martell and Cord Car, 10/29/36.

A friend lightened the photo yesterday.

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24 Mar 2020 21:14 #39823 by Terry Cockerell
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Thanks John, I figure these two period pictures should be posted as well.
The first is the earliest picture I have of the Actonite Cord. It was taken in Worcester MA, in around mid 1936. It shows the original owner's wife CORDelia Mason with 810 - 1586 A in the background.
Not sure where the second picture was taken but it must have been late 1936. It shows the original owner Amos Mason with "my wonderful car."
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24 Mar 2020 20:34 - 24 Mar 2020 20:37 #39822 by johnmereness
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24 Mar 2020 16:15 #39816 by johnmereness
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That makes sence then - the number should be assigned by the State to them as a manufacturer and they probably could have more than one number too, but probably only had a couple - much like dealer plates (when my parent's lived in Jacksonville, the house had at one time been owned by a dealer and there were some Florida plates from different years having same number and identifying as a dealer and unusually there were also his and her's plates too (same number, but partially different size font).
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24 Mar 2020 16:05 - 24 Mar 2020 16:08 #39815 by johnmereness
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Terry, could you go back and edit your photos this way - click on "action", then click on "edit", then click on "attachments" and then find the picture down at the bottom and click the "insert" tab below the photo - that hopefully will enlarge the photo and put it below your text) - it takes a little practice via formatting the way the website is set up.
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24 Mar 2020 05:44 - 24 Mar 2020 21:04 #39812 by Terry Cockerell
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This picture was taken in Sunset Blvd and shows a Custom Series Cord that had seen better days. The front bumper assembly is twisted and there is a large dent in the front LHS mudguard ( fender ) The picture could have been taken in the late 1930's or 1940's. The car is fitted with the rare wing windows.
Maybe it has survived?
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23 Mar 2020 05:55 #39805 by mikespeed35
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Many L-29 factory photos use the same number license plate also.
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22 Mar 2020 21:16 - 22 Mar 2020 23:33 #39800 by Terry Cockerell
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Attached are some more period pictures, this time from the Los Angeles Library showing views of the November 1935 Auto Show. The second one is more interesting as it shows how ordinary people got down on all fours to have a look at the drive train on the exciting new Cords on display
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22 Mar 2020 20:32 - 22 Mar 2020 20:35 #39799 by johnmereness
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Terry Cockerell wrote: Great set of period pictures John. The sedan and phaeton appear to have the same number plate.

Terry, that plate should show up often - I believe it would be a uniform manufacturer plate or perhaps one of a couple of sets of numbers as a manufacturer assigned to them by the State of Indiana.

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22 Mar 2020 20:14 - 22 Mar 2020 20:22 #39798 by Terry Cockerell
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Great set of period pictures John. The sedan and phaeton appear to have the same number plate.
Attached are copies of a picture that was recently donated to the Connersville Museum. The picture was originally taken in
Connersville outside the First Methodists Church on North Central Avenue. The church is still there and has not changed. The extra hood vents are apparently from a 1936 Hupmobile.
Note painted on the door of the Cord it says "25th AAA 500 Mile Race" which was held in 1937.
The last picture comes from page 121 of the Timeless Classic, note the sign says"24th AAA 500 Mile Race" which was held in 1936.
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22 Mar 2020 17:13 #39796 by johnmereness
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