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04 Jan 2020 23:58 - 04 Jan 2020 23:58 #39169 by johnmereness
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Sidenote: I recently bought the original Burco style fasteners (for my Auburn trunk) for the pocket and trunk from www.restorationspecialties.com - very nice plating on the parts too. See their catalog page 177 - and had note inside too that they could source other Burco fasteners now in plated too.

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04 Jan 2020 23:40 - 04 Jan 2020 23:50 #39168 by johnmereness
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I saw this photo (a 1937 812 S/C Westchester with interior pattern I am not familiar with - Beverly style pleats in Westchester seat pattern and more Beverly-ish door panels and rear quarter side panels interior ? And, with a plain driver's side cowl kick panel - no pocket) here: bringatrailer.com/listing/1937-cord-812-westchester-sc/


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03 Jan 2020 23:06 #39163 by 1748 S
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Thank you for the explanations on the undercoating and the black paint. I was told by a member that all Cords were undercoated. Then sprayed with black paint to make everything appeared black. Am not sure now if the paint was first or secondly applied. But the reason was to have the look of everything painted and protected.
I thought I recognized those pistons and roads in the background. I was not snooping at "things". Am just aware of background in pics.
My Beverly has all the original sheet metal floors. Nothing replaced or rusted thru. Its always been a west coast California car from back to 1949 in my paperwork.


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03 Jan 2020 18:28 #39161 by wynlaidig
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The black on the floor is black paint but I think it is not original black paint. There is red primer on the metal, then some areas, especially the seams, have been undercoated. Then there is black paint (which is also body color) sprayed over everything. But the body of the car had been resprayed once its lifetime (black on black) and I think the black on the floor is from that respraying.
And yes, those are cord pistons in the background.

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02 Jan 2020 15:53 #39152 by 1748 S
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wynlaidig wrote: That is very helpful Terry. The only panel my car was missing was the right front kick panel, so I didn't know for sure if there was a map pocket there or not. There is no map pocket on the driver's side kick panel, as shown here.


In the above picture showing the drivers side kick panel can you tell me if the black on the floor is paint or undercoating spray? Also are those pistons n rods from the Cord engine in the background? Thanks.


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02 Jan 2020 03:46 #39151 by Terry Cockerell
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Hi Wyn ................. Happy New Year MATE.
Being the drivers side there really isn't room for a map pocket.
Glad to be of help. The more we share the more things overlap and the more we all learn. Hope to see you in Auburn in the future. I hope to make it back one more time.

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02 Jan 2020 00:51 #39149 by wynlaidig
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That is very helpful Terry. The only panel my car was missing was the right front kick panel, so I didn't know for sure if there was a map pocket there or not. There is no map pocket on the driver's side kick panel, as shown here.

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02 Jan 2020 00:23 - 02 Jan 2020 00:25 #39148 by Terry Cockerell
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While looking at Google Images I cam across a Custom Beverly that had basically survived intact.
It has a pleated interior with the map pocket in the RHS cowl kick panel.
To see more pictures of this remarkable survivor check out,
The Fate Of Sleeping Beauties web site.
The details of the map pocket are pretty well all there.

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31 Dec 2019 23:32 #39145 by wynlaidig
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Yes, at some point in the Beverly's history, someone painted all the interior chrome with gold paint. But other than that, all the interior seems to be original.
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31 Dec 2019 16:28 #39139 by 1748 S
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johnmereness wrote: Changing the topic for a second - the Beverly door panel pictured - are the belt trim and door/window crank handles "Gold" plated ?


It sure appears to be painted a gold color but... The handles were chrome along with those tiny metal strips.. BTW those strips are impossible to find as they are no longer made or reproduced....


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31 Dec 2019 14:57 #39137 by johnmereness
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Changing the topic for a second - the Beverly door panel pictured - are the belt trim and door/window crank handles "Gold" plated ?

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31 Dec 2019 02:09 #39129 by wynlaidig
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Original Front door panel on S/C Custom Beverly:

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24 Dec 2019 23:35 - 26 Dec 2019 23:13 #39100 by Terry Cockerell
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Hi Gary, looking at Google Images there are a variety of styles but I have no idea which are correct. Some don't have map pockets in any of the doors while some do. Hopefully after Christmas Michael R in Germany will come back with details of his very original Westchester.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.
Cheers,
Terry
PS The attached picture comes from a Cord sales brochure. It is interesting to note that map pockets are shown in the back doors without any in the front doors however these drawings have been referred to in print by others as pretty basic.
All of the cars with pleated interiors that I have seen in Google Images do not have map pockets in the doors.
I look forward to comments from others.

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24 Dec 2019 15:51 #39098 by 1748 S
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Thanks Terry. I just saw what looked like an original Supercharged sedan and it had the passenger side map pocket. Am not ready for interior but will continue investigating this

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23 Dec 2019 07:59 #39095 by Terry Cockerell
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Following on from my previous email I have seen pictures of Westchesters "without" map pockets in the door panels.
I have no real idea of how they were originally supplied.
Perhaps Michael R in Germany can let us know how his very original Westchester was set out with map pockets?

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18 Dec 2019 22:23 #39079 by Terry Cockerell
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Gary my Westchester has map pockets in each door consequently I would assume the kick panels are plain without any extra pockets. Mine are plain but were redone in the mid 1970s

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18 Dec 2019 18:43 #39077 by 1748 S
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Did both Westchester & Beverly sedans have the map pocket? My car did not have this piece of the interior when we got the car in 1961.


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