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Below the towel rails is a stainless steel panel with side lights for the number plate. I have period Canadian plates that will be fitted to the car in the conventional locations. This topic has generated a huge amount of interest judging by the number of hits.
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You have that covered easily with 36" width.
Just to make things a bit more challenging Rick Hulett told me there was a correct orientation for the lines in each panel.
This is adequately covered by the pictures supplied by Michael in Germany of his original Westchester trunk ( boot ) lining.
Bill ...................... you are among great friends, even if we don't all have CANON copiers.
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Congratulations,
That's one of the tricks that was needed to match the original trunk material.
Just need the jute backing, Taupe carpet, and some matching binding.
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After rereading those words, I take it as he observed one Berline with the exception to the rule. That wouldn't rule out more than one, and could also be construed to have an exception on a Custom Beverly, to my way of thinking.
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What is the width of the printing machine ??????????????
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In my email correspondence with Rick Hulett on Feb. 10, 2019 he indicated that the general rule was that the trunk carpet color was always a taupe/brown( to my eyes beige) color. The exception to that rule was on the Cabriolet's where the trunk carpet was always the same as the interior carpet. Other exceptions were on the Custom Berline where the interior and trunk carpet were the same color. He confirmed those statements in a Feb. 11 email.
Those emails are in the batch of info that I forwarded to you last year.
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wynlaidig wrote: When did the color of the trunk carpet change from being the same color as interior carpet? Was it always black at that point, or was it still sometimes interior color?
Good question.Am watching this post to learn what early means. Thanks for a great timely question.
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John - the trim pieces around the trunk opening were painted body color. They were in place when the body was painted, in fact if you pulled back the rugs or just you found overspray.
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Here is Terry's note: John, I am assuming that you are referring to the trunk carpet?
Actually there was none in the trunk when I purchased the car. The only lining material in the trunk was inside the trunk lid.
I had reference sketches from two sources. One showed a long strip of the striped material under the jack shaft while the other showed the striped material following the line of the trunk opening. I opted for the latter as it looks better however I put the edge of the material under the adjacent cover plate just to hold it in place. The carpets were made in separate pieces and edged all round.
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If you can get the diagonal lines on the burlap, the next step is to adhere the burlap to a jute backing. Originally it was needled together, today we have many types of spray adhesives that would make that job pretty easy, even for amateur restorers.
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We do have 2 options for you. I recommend the Grey Tweed, and then you can die it to be the color you need. Please see the image link below for a quality image sample of the Grey Tweed
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The second option is the Brown Tweed pattern that we have, but it looks like it may not work for your requirements, due to the color pattern. Please see the image link below for the Brown Tweed.
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wcoye wrote: about how thick is the jute backing material? Stiff or flexible? Is it like thin carpet pad?
It is thin and flexible. Looks to be about 1/8" thick but hard to say due to deterioration over the past 80+ years. The thinnest carpet pad jute that I can find today is 20 oz, which is about 1/4" thick.
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Thanks for posting these pics. I find that by blowing them up on this website that I can actually get a close scaling of the no. of lines per inch. If you look closely in the blown up mode, the samples are stapled to a white background paper. The standard office staple is just a tiny fraction less than 1/2 inch in length. Using this info, the no. of lines/inch is approximately 8-9 lines/inch. on both of Rick's original samples.
Going back thru all the previous posts, there were a number with scales on original trunk material.
MichaelR had material with approximately 6 lines/inch.
Terry's original had approximately 6 lines/inch.
Tim Gilmartin's had approximately 9 lines/inch.
Wyn ladigs' had approximately 8.5 lines/inch on both samples.
We are seeing 2 distinct patterns, nominally 6 and 9 lines/inch. We need S.N.s for Michael R's and Tim Gilmartin's material. to try to determine if there is a specific time when the two types were used.
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Answer: Yes, I would say they are from the same source. There is a very slight difference in the line spacing, but the jute backing, total thickness and the weave of burlap seem to be nearly identical in both samples.
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The second material was used on the late 1937 cars and was probably necessary because they ran out of the first batch and had to do a small batch print. This material would have been on the late 812's.
The pic's of the samples are small and are not relative to a scale to allow counting lines per inch although it is not obvious that there is a variation in number of lines per inch.
810 2489F is relatively close to the end of 810 production, but was before any true 812 production, falling into the middle of what Rick described as 36/37 production. 812 310112 is relatively close to the end of 812 production, and could be considered a late 37 in Rick's terminology. They both have the same line spacing.
Question: In person, up close, do the materials appear to be from the same source, as well as having the same no. of lines per inch?
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From my understanding the Factory was focused on producing sedans during the early stage of production consequently a cabriolet with a low Serial Number would have been a real anomaly.
Both of your cars are "later " in the production run and both have the fine line trunk lining pattern which is consistent with what we know.
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If the number is correct then you have an extremely rare Cord.
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I've noticed that the restoration manual topic has laid fallow formany years . Would it make any sense to gather what has been gathered here (yes, poor use of sentence structure) and with some judicious editing and post it in the restoration manual category?
I enjoy searching through post to find an answer but often I'm in a hurry and have cull through a lot of stuff to find what I need to know. Whadya think?
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