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04 Jan 2005 19:10 #2665 by Niko Moritz
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I found the information I was looking for. The problem with searching the old patents (before 1976) is that one needs to either to know the exact patent number, or current US classification of the patent.

The patent number is 2,084,120 by Harold Ames, patented on June 15, 1937. It seems that the two radiators mounted on the first prototype between the hood and the fenders were also used to support the mechanism.

There are (at least) two other patents that describe the original design of Cord automobile: D93,451 and D97,697 by Gordon Buehrig.

I found many more patents related to Auburn and Cord automobiles, including (at least) one by E.L. Cord himself: "Design of an automobile radiator".

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18 Nov 2004 13:47 #2493 by Niko Moritz
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Auburn/Cord Parts wrote: Ric-
A better look at the inboard lamps is illustrated in the patent drawings.


I'm also interested in this subject. Do you happen to know the patent number, so I could search for the patent?

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08 Jul 2004 18:13 #1927 by Auburn/Cord Parts
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Ric-

We found one fender in California that had the inboard headlamp and lid. If you recall the information on the Cord prototypes, especially the one they drove to California and back to Auburn. they had lots of complaints and trouble with the headlamps. The lever to work the headlamps was located in the dash notch opposite the steering column. It was a rather long handle that you flipped sideways. This not only raised the inboard lids but turned the lights on as well. The neat part was the park lamps. the first position only raised the lids about half way and then turned on the lamps. One of the problems occured when you hit a big bump or pothole, the lids could/would drop closed. They also complained they were noisy and hard to open. They wound up proping them open on the trip back from California.

The cable and pulley system to open these inboard lamps is very complicated and would be a problem on a production car. The system they finally used was adopted from a Stinson landing light that cranked down out of the wing. I do have blueprints where Cord engineer Stan Thomas was powering the production headlights with 2 Delco electric motors as usd by NCR on cash registers. A better look at the inboard lamps is illustrated in the patent drawings.

See ya at Auburn?

Stan


Ric Simpson wrote: Stan! I'm curious about the inboard headlights! I didn't think any were known to exist! Would you care to expound on them? I am curious to know about the set-up for winding them "up and down". All the best, Ric.


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04 Jul 2004 01:54 #1906 by Ric Simpson
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Stan! I'm curious about the inboard headlights! I didn't think any were known to exist! Would you care to expound on them? I am curious to know about the set-up for winding them "up and down". All the best, Ric.







Auburn/Cord Parts wrote: Chip-

If you email me I can send you a diagram that shows where to look for your chassis number. Also, if you send me any numbers you find I can help fill in the blanks. I am quite curious as to what your Cord might be. I maintain a listing of all Cords produced and especially any of the prototype or handbuilt 100. We have one in our shop that has the inboard headlamps.

Cordially,

Stan


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30 Jun 2004 16:32 #1891 by Auburn/Cord Parts
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If you email me I can send you a diagram that shows where to look for your chassis number. Also, if you send me any numbers you find I can help fill in the blanks. I am quite curious as to what your Cord might be. I maintain a listing of all Cords produced and especially any of the prototype or handbuilt 100. We have one in our shop that has the inboard headlamps.

Cordially,

Stan

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30 Jun 2004 14:40 #1889 by Bill Hummel
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Chip Hellie wrote: I just purchased a 35/36 Cord 810 Westchester. It has no chassis plate, so I wondered if the serial number was stamped on the chassis anywhere?


I believe there is a serial number stamped into the stub frame in back of the right wheel.

Look closely, a lot of frames have layers of paint that have built up over the years. This makes the serial number hard to find.

I stuck a TV camera on mine and let a Cord expert look at my frame across the Internet. I then learned that my stub-frame had been replaced.

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30 Jun 2004 07:19 #1887 by Chip Hellie
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I just purchased a 35/36 Cord 810 Westchester. It has no chassis plate, so I wondered if the serial number was stamped on the chassis anywhere?

The car has never had been fitted with rear fender, forward splash guards.
I noticed pictures of the prototype cars or pre-production cars which seem to have these missing also. Can anyone help me find out what car I found?
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Chip Hellie

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