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CORD HARDTOP COUPES
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The title was honorably conferred, and I see no reason to rescind it now.
Incidentally, the A-C-D Company did have many vital parts manufactured, using factory prints. Cord outer universal joints, transmission gears and hubcaps were among these. Not always the best quality, though.
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I got another one for your guys to wrastle around with. Was Dallas Winslow's ACD Co. really a factory? He was mostly as service company for Auburns and Cords. I know he had some stuff made but I don't think he actually made anything himself so I don't see how he could call his operation a factory. When I first jointed the ACD Club, I found it confusing to say your Cord went back to the factory in the 50s when ACD went out of business in 1937.All comments welcome. Thank you
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It's got that row of screws.Josh Malks wrote: Interiors restored by "The Factory" in the post-war era are considered original variations. (For example, Ralph Butler liked to add a row of screws across the top edge of the door panels of open cars.)
I was wondering the same thing.Now if Dallas Winslow's ACD Company turned a sedan into a station wagon, what would that be? Or Glenn Pray's ACD Company?
Hmmmm.
If anybody attempts this, the station wagon should be built from a bustle-back Cord. It wouldn't be as much of a loss.
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Now if Dallas Winslow's ACD Company turned a sedan into a station wagon, what would that be? Or Glenn Pray's ACD Company?
Hmmmm.
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Josh Malks wrote: So yes, a convertible coupe returned to the factory to be modified into a hardtop is an authentic body style. (The factory even gave it a new number plate with the suffix "M".) A Cord that had the same modification made in 1950 (or 2005) is not.
That makes sense then.
However, just to be a pain in the rear.... there is no hardtop coupe anywhere that was "always" a hardtop coupe.
On another authenticity topic, could the upholstery in my Dad's 37 Cord Phaeton be considered original upholstery because he took the car to the factory back in 1957 and had Ralph Butler redo it using the original material and patterns? That's got to be as close to original as any redone interior could possibly get, I would think. He had the whole front end (steering and stuff) rebuilt at the same time while it was there. The car probably didn't see another 2000 miles after that. It's now been sitting in the basement since about 1961 or 62.
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So yes, a convertible coupe returned to the factory to be modified into a hardtop is an authentic body style. (The factory even gave it a new number plate with the suffix "M".) A Cord that had the same modification made in 1950 (or 2005) is not.
And no, if "someone" turned a sedan ito a station wagon now, it is not an authentic Cord body style. If you found one that the factory had done, it is.
Just my opinion.
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The closest thing to an original would be the one that was returned to the factory to be modified into a hardtop. But still, it was a custom job performed on an existing convertible with the exception being that it was done at the factory.
If any of the known hardtop coupes are considered to have any type of authenticity, then any current Cord could be customized with a hardtop and should be treated the same way.
It's really no different than making the car into a hot rod.
What if someone took a sedan and converted it into a station wagon? What's the difference? It would be another model that the factory could have produced. See what I'm getting at?
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The tan coupe was at Auburn in 1991. At that time it belonged to Paul Quinn in Mass. In 1995 it was at Auburn again only it was rich maroon and owned by Charles Knof. Yes these two are the same car.
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Not long after the restoration was finished there was a problem with the paint system that was used on the car (this was the time frame the manufacturers were changing the formulation of the paints) and the car was repainted rich maroon. This is the car that was at Auburn in 1995.
It was around that time the car made the auction circuit and I lost track of it. I am guessing this coupe at the Barret Jackson auction is the same car.
I check with Bob McEwan and he beleives there are only the 4 coupes around today (at least we haven't heard of any more). These would be the three originals we've been talking about and Bob's.
The construction of Bob's coupe was well documented in the ACD Newsletter when it was built in the early '70's.
I hope this helps out some...now let's see what the car does at the aution!
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I also remember a palm beach tan coupe being at Auburn I think in the early '90's. I'm going to have to dig around and see if I have any info on that car.
I don't know which coupe is coming up for auction.
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