Value of Cord Shell?

Sorry, but the Cord Phaeton was sold. When I was looking at it there was no ID plate that I could find.

We are from Australia and already have a good 812 Westchester, which will be back on the road shortly. We are chasing a phaeton for restoration and would be interested. Is there a VIN or ID plate on the chassis? more than happy to discuss. Thanks Andrew

I just heard from Rodger Eddy's son-in-law that the Cord was sold to a fellow named Paul Kaufman. I wish him luck!

I wish him luck. Once again it could be a beautiful car.

It is my understanding this Cord has been sold. The new owner plans to restore it.

Alec... I sent you a private message

Yes indeed

I agree with your conclusion on the Auburn. I suspect that if it had minimal protection from the elements for the past five or six years, the restoration would be much easier. It was only last year that someone actually covered the car with a tarp.

What is needed is someone with MORE rose-colored glasses!
CORDially Mike

Your diagnosis is correct- The car is in very rough shape and any attempt to restore it is an act of insanity although I'm not a licensed psychiatrist. Judging from what a family member told me they are trying to decide what to do next but it's too soon after Rodger's passing to worry about a couple of cars. That said I can pass anyone's information on to my contact if they're interested in the Cord or the Auburn. I took a better look at the Auburn and it is in fact an 8 cylinder Phaeton with a two speed rear end that had been restored and is in reasonable shape despite living under a shed for 5 or so years. There's very dark oil in the crank case but it doesn't appear to have water in it. My self-diagnosis is that I'd be insane to take on this project but that doesn't mean someone else isn't crazy or more ambitious than I. I took a few pictures if anyone is interested.

Donald, I think psychiatrists make a lot of money out of us enthusiasts.
I am going nuts doing a restoration and can't afford to go back to the shrink otherwise I would never finish the restoration.
We live in hope!
Yes let's hope this phaeton finds a good home.

The car is indeed Rodger Eddy's 1936 phaeton. I've looked at the car with Rodger several times over the past four years and it is an intriguing project for sure. This said, the car was badly damaged when parked aside a building that caught fire... Rodger said the fire occurred about twelve years ago but it could have been earlier. It is parked along side Rodger's 1934 Auburn coupe under a fiberglass roof behind the Eddy house in NW Portland. The roof protects both cars from a direct rainstorm. This said, both cars have been vulnerable to the elements nonetheless.

Based on my visits, the Cord is not complete as it stands today. For example, there are no instruments and it appears that many engine parts are badly damaged. Rodger said that the hood and the engine are replacements. As shown in several photos, the front windshield frame appears to have melted in the fire. The interior is not intact and the floorboards appear to have substantial rust damage.

On first glance, the body panels appear to be quite straight but I've not been able to determine if the fire cause metallurgical to some of the panels. Finally, simply moving the car to the street would require a considerable effort.

All this said, I remain interested in this car simply for its history. When I discussed this project with my psychiatrist, he diagnosed insanity. I am nearly done with a complete restoration of a 1933 Auburn Salon that I acquired in high school. The Auburn had been converted to a chicken coop when I bought it... It's taken over 50 years and much more money than is defensible to bring it to its present condition. So, when I look at Rodger's Cord, I can't help but think the Cord project requires a vow of poverty.
I'm not sure if the car will be sold. It's possible that family members may rally to the restoration. That might be the best for both me and the Cord. The Cord should survive and I should avoid bankruptcy.
Happy to discuss this project to anyone interested!

The car is indeed Rodger Eddy's 1936 phaeton. I've looked at the car with Rodger several times over the past four years and it is an intriguing project for sure. This said, the car was badly damaged when parked aside a building that caught fire... Rodger said the fire occurred about twelve years ago but it could have been earlier. It is parked along side Rodger's 1934 Auburn coupe under a fiberglass roof behind the Eddy house in NW Portland. The roof protects both cars from a direct rainstorm. This said, both cars have been vulnerable to the elements nonetheless.

Based on my visits, the Cord is not complete as it stands today. For example, there are no instruments and it appears that many engine parts are badly damaged. Rodger said that the hood and the engine are replacements. As shown in several photos, the front windshield frame appears to have melted in the fire. The interior is not intact and the floorboards appear to have substantial rust damage.

On first glance, the body panels appear to be quite straight but I've not been able to determine if the fire cause metallurgical to some of the panels. Finally, simply moving the car to the street would require a considerable effort.

All this said, I remain interested in this car simply for its history. When I discussed this project with my psychiatrist, he diagnosed insanity. I am nearly done with a complete restoration of a 1933 Auburn Salon that I acquired in high school. The Auburn had been converted to a chicken coop when I bought it... It's taken over 50 years and much more money than is defensible to bring it to its present condition. So, when I look at Rodger's Cord, I can't help but think the Cord project requires a vow of poverty.
I'm not sure if the car will be sold. It's possible that family members may rally to the restoration. That might be the best for both me and the Cord. The Cord should survive and I should avoid bankruptcy.
Happy to discuss this project to anyone interested!

Please contact me if they are interested in selling the Cord Phaeton. I sent you my contact information in the private messages.

Correct. His family is trying to figure out what to do with all the cars they don't want. I never met him but his wife and other members of the family seem very nice.

Sounds like it was Rodger Eddy stuff in Portland Oregon.

You're probably right. Too precious for that kind of treatment. Best to leave the rat rods to the big three or is it two now? I'm in touch with the owner so if anyone is interested I'm sure he'd be happy to talk. There's also a '34 Auburn 850Y Phaeton that's in MUCH better shape that's available. It's beautiful but too big for my shop.

Alec I saw an outrageous Rat Rod outside City Hall in Auburn in 2011. There was not one square inch of paint on the whole thing. It had a badly rusted and burnt Ford roadster body on a chassis powered by an Oshkosh truck engine.
It had a pair of tubular framed kitchen seats covered in hessian and NO Floor!
You either dangled your legs or put your feet up on chassis rails.
A Cord is too good for such sacrilege even if the floor is rusted out!

Yes, sad to see it in such a state but if there's no one who can save it, and I may get in trouble for suggesting this on the ACD forum but "rat rod"?

Thanks Alec, yes the engine looks like it could have been dragged up from the Great Barrier Reef, it too is turning into a mess these days and needs a huge effort to save it.
What a tragic "end" for a phaeton. Let's hope someone out there takes it on.
Regards, Terry Cockerell
from,
Down Under.

I want to see the car and it's in rough shape. The floors are rusted through and the engine looks as if it's part of the great barrier reef. I looked but there didn't seem to be any identifying tags on it. I spoke to the family member who's handling the car and he said there's probably records of it and many parts somewhere in boxes. There should be a home for it, just not mine. I can try to put anyone in touch with him as a favor for letting me take a look.

I wonder if this is the same Cord Donald Elmer found a while ago?

Depending on what parts are stashed in it (and around it) and what may be in the house (with owner) or out being worked on - I would lean to 20K min to perhaps 35K max

Noted. Thank you.

I would be interested if this came up for sale.

I'll take a look this weekend and let you know. Thanks

Alec, if you are able to check the car out more closely please take pictures of the Serial Number and Body Number tags. It may be another unknow Cord.
They will be on the RHS of the cowl.

Other club members may have different thoughts on its value. From 2500 miles away and not really seeing the car up close to see what’s there and what missing and by the photo’s posted, I think the value would be closer to the $10,000 than the $25,000.

This is very helpful. It's definitely worth saving. They are one of the most beautiful cars ever designed. Thanks so much!

It would all depends on what’s there and what’s missing. I can tell you that with all the possible missing parts, it would only make sense to go to a person that might have all the missing parts to make a complete car. With that being said, I would save that it’s a 5 figure car, any where between $10,000 to $25,000 depending on what’s there and the condition.

I agree but it would take deeper pockets than mine to do so. Any idea what something like this would be worth? I'd save it if only to make sure it found a home to someone who who could give it some love.

Thanks for the info. With the lush greenery outside the fence, I would have guessed Florida or somewhere down south. Oregon is a little too far away for me. Looks like too good of a car to not be saved.

It's in Oregon

I would be an interested buyer. Where is the Cord located

I've come upon a 1936 810 Cord Convertible Phaeton. The body is intact but all the trim is missing. I don't yet know if the running gear is still in the car Is there any value to it for restoration or parts? It would be a shame to see it go to the scrap yard.