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Front spring survey

  • Tim Gilmartin
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12 Oct 2021 21:58 #44082 by Tim Gilmartin
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Hello all: I recently had to change out the transverse front spring on my Cord. The one I had used in my car for the last twenty years (and it came with the car) had lost its “memory” and would not hold the proper ride height. It was completely flat, and the long ends were going convex. This spring has two long leaves on the bottom.
My new old spring came from a pile of parts with no known history. It has three long leaves on the bottom. Two of the leaves have nice round holes on each end for the suspension rod. The third leaf has a very rough cut hole for the rods.
Seems as there is no consensus as whether the third spring was added by the factory or by Dallas Winslow. It definitely has brought back the correct ride height.
So., when you have a chance, check to see if you have two or three long leaves at the bottom of your front spring. and respond here. I’d like to get a rough idea about how many threes are out there, and about any comments on factory or non-factory. Thank you!
CORDially, Tim.

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13 Oct 2021 09:00 - 13 Oct 2021 09:10 #44087 by Terry Cockerell
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Tim attached is a picture I took of my front spring about 14 years ago. The car had arrived from the US in pretty rough condition mechanically and needed a lot of work to get it on the road. The three long leaves all have a smooth round holes at each end. None were roughly cut. The car is a fairly early production Westchester with Serial No 810 - 1586 A.
I have no idea as the originality or when it may have been modified. The car had been in continuous use well up into the 1960s.
To me the ride was pretty firm up front. I had linished the leaves, greased them and wrapped the spring in heavy duty industrial plastic tape.
The spring was within specifications supplied by Henry Portz.
I replaced the saddle with a longer one to spread the load under the front crossmember.

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14 Oct 2021 00:25 - 14 Oct 2021 19:30 #44099 by George van Nostrand
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Tim In answer to your questions i went into my Suspension file to find a dialog from Pete Rhoads with Josh Malks in a 3/18/2006 Forum. "How many leaves do you have ? Count the little leaf at the top as a leaf, = 14 in total. Are there 2 main leaves ? ( the ones with the holes in them ) " See also Henry Portz diagram on heights.

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14 Oct 2021 02:01 #44100 by pete kelly
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My phaeton has 2 main leaves.
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14 Oct 2021 02:24 #44101 by Rileypu29
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My ‘36 Westchester and ‘37 Phaeton have two main leaves.
Bill

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14 Oct 2021 03:40 #44102 by 1748 S
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My 37 Beverly has 2 long leafs with holes nicely cut thru them. Car serial number of car is 1748 S built in February of 37. It is NOT a renumbered unsold 36 Beverly.


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