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26 Mar 2021 12:07 #42729 by wynlaidig
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25 Mar 2021 21:41 #42723 by Tim Gilmartin
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Tim corrects himself. Choke cable piece goes on top.

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25 Mar 2021 19:42 #42720 by Tim Gilmartin
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WYN: if you have Stan’s drawing of the back of the quadrant, it is drawn to scale. The piece that holds the “gas” lever goes on top of the piece that holds the “choke” cable. A thin piece of metal should do the trick.
I will send you an email pic.
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24 Mar 2021 09:21 - 24 Mar 2021 09:22 #42712 by Terry Cockerell
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The attached sketch shows the Choke clamp and the Hand Throttle friction clip.


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23 Mar 2021 23:53 #42709 by wynlaidig
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OK I am tracking with you now. Another friction plate like the one on the manual choke cable. I don't think I have one of those on any of my control panels. If someone can post a photo or dimensions I would appreciate it. Is it exactly the same as what is used for the manual choke cable in the photos above?

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23 Mar 2021 23:01 #42708 by A.S. KOLLER
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Wyn,
It turns out that there is another U shaped piece of metal that bolts to the same 1/4" bolt that is holding the choke cable.
This piece of metal rubs against the throttle rod keeping it in whatever position you put it in.
Turns out I did have this piece but had no idea what it was for.
I can email you a picture if you like.
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23 Mar 2021 22:08 #42707 by wynlaidig
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Steve, See photos below. Is this what you asking about? The end of the throttle rod has a small bushing that fits in to the control arm and is held in place by a cotter pin.

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23 Mar 2021 20:47 #42706 by A.S. KOLLER
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Thanks E.L. and Tim,
I have that part but had no idea what it was for.
I don't know haw to post pictures to this wed site but could email it to anyone that might be interested.
Thanks to all of you for helping me solve this problem

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23 Mar 2021 20:20 - 23 Mar 2021 20:22 #42705 by Terry Cockerell
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Tim, I don't want to appear to be splitting hairs however the clamp in the picture you referred to is probably not an original piece.
A detailed drawing done by Stan Gilliland shows the Gas friction clamp as a separate piece to the Choke Cable clamp. As a manual choke was not supplied originally this seems to be correct.
The cast iron "multi functional" bracket holding everything together is a real work of art. Made from fairly heavy cast iron, machined and drilled in various places it is normally hidden away and nobody gets to see it.

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23 Mar 2021 20:14 #42704 by E L
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Tim , I believe what you see is the clamp to hold just the cable. It friction clip is different looking and puts pressure on the rod. I could post a picture if I was more computer literate

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23 Mar 2021 19:12 #42703 by Tim Gilmartin
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The friction clamp mentioned by EL is shown in the 5th picture. Looking down from the top of the assembly, you can see it holding both the “gas” rod and the “choke” cable.
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23 Mar 2021 17:41 #42701 by E L
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There is a friction clamp in the shape of a "question Mark" that applies pressure to the side of the throttle rod. It bolts to the same 1/4 " bolt that holds the choke cable

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23 Mar 2021 15:29 #42700 by A.S. KOLLER
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Thanks Terry,
Your pictures and drawings show very clearly how this should go together and it is exactly the way I assembled mine.
It still begs the question of what holds the throttle lever in position without any friction.
If it was connected to a wire cable like the manual choke is, there would not be a problem but with the rod linkage it must have some way to keep it from flopping up and down or am I missing something here?
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23 Mar 2021 01:10 #42691 by wynlaidig
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Here's another photo that may help.

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23 Mar 2021 00:19 - 23 Mar 2021 00:21 #42690 by Terry Cockerell
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The springs in the pictures are the same as mine so should be correct.
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22 Mar 2021 21:13 #42689 by A.S. KOLLER
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Hi Wyn,
Gary's inquiry was on my behalf.
Your pictures are great and very helpful.
My car was totally disassembled then half restored when I bought it so I did not have the advantage of taking it apart.
As is see it there are three springs on the shaft that push the quadrant lever against the side of the case and the friction holds them in any given place.
The throttle quadrant however has no space for a spring , as you can see in your picture before restoration.
So what holds it in place.
I see in your restored control that you have s lighter spring on the right side (not the spring on the (rheostat ) which I assume is fore that purpose .
Is that correct?
I had tried that on mine but with the spring on the left side but it skewed the quadrant too mush and didn't look right.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks
Steve

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22 Mar 2021 11:35 #42684 by wynlaidig
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22 Mar 2021 11:34 #42683 by wynlaidig
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Here are a few photos I have.






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22 Mar 2021 09:22 #42682 by 1748 S
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I have received a call asking for help with the hand throttle linkage behind the dash. I have been looking for my parts but I'm not finding the actual center lever connection items. I know we have a long steel shaft that goes thru the firewall but the actual way it connects to the slide in the 4 lever quadrant escapes me. I think it looks like the headlight switch connection but just can't find my parts. A picture sure would help me and another member in need.


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