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07 Jul 2021 17:37 #43466 by A.S. KOLLER
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Thanks all for your comments.
The project car was set up with two batteries when I purchased it.
It was mid restoration with the engine not finished so I have no idea why he added the extra battery.
My understanding however is that while the batteries do have a lot of amps, electrical devices only draw what they need so I don't think that this would be the problem.
If the starter is faulty it could be drawing too many amps causing the problem.
I have ordered an amp clamp to test the draw and will keep you posted
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07 Jul 2021 13:40 #43464 by Curt Schulze
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He needs two batteries to overcome the resistance between the starter motor and ground. Most likely it is the ground brushes to the end plate.

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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07 Jul 2021 04:01 #43463 by mikespeed35
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I use i wet cell battery with about 550 CCA with no trouble. Why do you need two Optima? That's a lot of Amps.
CORDiallyMike

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05 Jul 2021 20:45 #43454 by pete kelly
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Have you checked the amp draw on the line to the starter?
Have you tried it with just 1 battery?

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05 Jul 2021 20:32 #43453 by A.S. KOLLER
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Mike,

It is Positive ground and is wired that way.
Any ideas?
Steve

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02 Jul 2021 22:15 #43444 by mikespeed35
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You are positive ground?
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02 Jul 2021 21:08 #43443 by A.S. KOLLER
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I am about to rewire my startix to use a manual start button but have run into a problem.
When I first started the car I used a standard 6 volt solenoid which after a few starts the contacts welded together, This happened to the second one that I tried.
I then hot wired my startix and used the manual button and the same thing happened.
My car is using two Optima 6V batteries wired in parallel giving a reading of
6.8 Volts and the engine is grounded direct to the battery.
The cables are all heavy six volt cables.
Any ideas?
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30 Nov 2020 20:50 #41633 by Terry Cockerell
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Jim.
The article says to leave the generator wire disconnected.
I figure if it is disconnected and taped up inside the Startix box then the generator wire can be connected on the outside to make it look correct.

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30 Nov 2020 19:51 - 30 Nov 2020 20:47 #41632 by Terry Cockerell
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Thanks Gary, I do have a booklet on the Startix complete with trouble shooting.
Attached is the sheet by Don Beatty showing how to disconnect the restart solenoid.
I have attached a better copy as some of the text had been cut short.


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30 Nov 2020 13:32 - 30 Nov 2020 13:37 #41629 by 1748 S
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Heres some inside pictures and information that may help some. This was from a recient purchase from the estate of a passed on member from Montana.


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30 Nov 2020 00:47 #41626 by uconn_1965
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Jim: I sent you a copy of the info I have to your email address. Cliff

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30 Nov 2020 00:25 #41625 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Terry,
Would it be possible for you to send me this Startix modification? It sounds interesting and I might want to try it as I restore my Cord.
THanks,
Jim

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29 Nov 2020 04:39 - 29 Nov 2020 10:19 #41618 by Terry Cockerell
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The gear selection switch complete with new wiring has subsequently been installed. Back down the Forum page is a topic I wrote on Gear Selector Wiring which has had over 6,400 hits.
I'm getting close to finishing the restoration which will probably string out to March 2021 by the time it has been debugged.

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29 Nov 2020 00:12 #41616 by uconn_1965
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Yep. I missed on my first read that he said cord was under restoration. Shift arm to come.

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29 Nov 2020 00:09 #41615 by 1748 S
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uconn_1965 wrote: I’m curious. I don’t see a shift arm. How do you shift?

I too was wondering that.... Maybe sticks and levers.... I'm sure Terry just has not installed that yet.


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28 Nov 2020 22:30 #41613 by uconn_1965
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I’m curious. I don’t see a shift arm. How do you shift?

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28 Nov 2020 20:05 - 28 Nov 2020 20:09 #41612 by Terry Cockerell
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Thanks for the picture. I also prefer to hide any extra gagetry where possible. Two extra gauges I have a mounted on a hinged plate so that they can be put out of site for shows etc. One gauge monitors gear box oil pressure while the other monitors the temperature of the RH cylinder bank. No coolant passes through the inlet manifold.
You will also note a strip with LED lights between the dash and ash tray. These are gear selection lights which are a bit of a novelty but work very well especially with novice drivers.
Red is for reverse and Green covers the Go Gears.


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28 Nov 2020 18:09 #41611 by uconn_1965
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See attached photo

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28 Nov 2020 18:06 #41610 by uconn_1965
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As a follow up, I’ve attached a photo of the push button location. It’s out of the way. When I turn the ignition switch on, I continue to hold the key and my little finger pushes in the switch to energize the startix and starter. Switch pretty much out of view unless you crawl under dash. Having trouble attaching photo so might have to send separately

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28 Nov 2020 04:21 #41606 by Terry Cockerell
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Thanks for your comments. I am looking forward to driving my Cord again when the complete restoration is finished ................... early next year.
I covered about 10,000 miles in 5 years and hope to do a lot more.
I had thought the Startix would work without the restart function and without the need of a push button. Thanks again "UCONN".

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28 Nov 2020 01:41 #41605 by uconn_1965
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I’ve done this modification in the past. Startix remains intact. You do have to take the back of startix off to change 2 wires and disconnect a third wire. You do have to install a hidden push button to activate the startix. You still have to depress the clutch before pushing your hidden push button to energize the startix and start the Cord. Works extremely well and you never have to worry about starter engaging while running and drop in output from generator. Probably not a medication for the purist but I prefer to drive my Cords.

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28 Nov 2020 01:26 #41604 by Terry Cockerell
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I have a sheet on Startix modifications that was written by Don Beatty of San Diego. Essentially it shows how to disconnect the restart system and only have the starter main solenoid working.
Has anybody actually removed the restart solenoid and just used the box with the main solenoid in place ?
By removing the restart solenoid the cable can still be connected to the generator terminal for show.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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