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20 Jul 2020 12:05 #40559 by 1748 S
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russv wrote: Terry
Your tool and description would make a nice article for the newsletter.
Russ


I agree. This is a great idea.


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20 Jul 2020 11:37 #40556 by russv
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Terry
Your tool and description would make a nice article for the newsletter.
Russ

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18 Jul 2020 13:07 #40544 by pac32
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Thanks Terry for the pictures and the tool dimensions. I will file them away in case I ever have to take my switch apart. I last time I did one was as a boy about 45 years ago and only remember having a terrible time with the snap ring.

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15 Jul 2020 11:15 #40526 by Terry Cockerell
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Thanks Graham, I think I will have to get a new and BIGGER hat tomorrow.

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15 Jul 2020 10:19 #40525 by Blackiron
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That is impressive Terry, you really are the “go to” Cordguy.

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15 Jul 2020 08:41 - 15 Jul 2020 08:42 #40524 by Terry Cockerell
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Attached are the simple tools I have used to remove as well as install the circlip that holds the gear selector switch.
1. The circlip has to be pushed through a tapered section inside of the switch housing. The tubular plastic tool does this job.
The tubular plastic tool was machined a PVC water pipe fitting ( from memory)
The large end is 38.5 mm diameter with 2 mm wall thickness
The small end is 33 mm diameter with 2 mm wall thickness.
The slot which is about 19 mm wide allows the tube to compress.
Overall length is 130 mm
2. The small threaded rod is used to compress the internal spring inside the switch. I didn't have a piece of 3/16" threaded rod, so I just used what was convenient. The wooden spacer keep the nut out in the open.
Overall length is 190 mm
3. A couple of long thin tools are handy to remove the circlip. One has a wedge shaped end like a screw driver and the other has a small hook.
Both are about 190 mm long
It helps to keep these tools in a small box marked with "Switch Tools"
They are fairly easy to make and do work.


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14 Jul 2020 14:38 #40523 by 1748 S
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Terry. I too am interested in seeing these tools because I will have to do this job later on.


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14 Jul 2020 09:31 #40521 by Terry Cockerell
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Graham,I am amazed that you found the problem so quickly ............ well done!
Installing or removing the rotary switch is not such a problem if you have the right tools.
I will get some pictures of the tools I made tomorrow and share them.

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14 Jul 2020 03:42 #40520 by Blackiron
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Yes Gary, that’s exactly what is was. That rotary switch sure is a pig to remove and reinstall with the wire clip.

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14 Jul 2020 03:09 #40519 by 1748 S
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Really happy you found and fixed the problem. So it was an electrical issue sending a message to the side shift shaft to stay hard over to the 4th gear but not actually in 4th gear.... Good deal...


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14 Jul 2020 02:14 #40518 by Blackiron
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Well, found the problem. The circlip holding the rotary selector switch in the steering column arm had come out of its groove allowing the switch to move slightly out of position.
An easy fix, thanks all.

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13 Jul 2020 21:43 #40517 by Blackiron
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Thanks for the quick replies guys. I don’t know how long it’s been like this, maybe thirty years, maybe yesterday.
I’ll follow your suggestions and report back.
Thank you

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13 Jul 2020 14:46 #40514 by 1748 S
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I found this on You Tube. It clearly shows where neutral is supposed to be.


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13 Jul 2020 14:35 #40512 by 1748 S
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Your issue sounds like vacuum is always on the cross shift shaft holding it over to the 4th gear gate. If this is NOT an electrical issue I suspect your shift solenoid valve is leaking vacuum so the shaft stays hard over to the left. As Jim suggested. Start working thru this till you "find" the issue. Something is telling the cross shaft to stay hard over. With the engine shut down the shaft will return to the true neutral position.


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13 Jul 2020 12:54 #40511 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Hi Blackiron, Yes there is a problem somewhere. with the clutch depressed and the shift selector in neutral the cross shift should be in the middle.

Hard left looking from the front is 4th gear. So the first question is does this only happen when you are coming out of 4th gear or does it happen all the time? If it only happens when you are coming out of 4th gear I would suspect it is not coming all the way out of 4th gear.

From your post it sounds like this may have just started and is happening all the time. Try the following trouble shooting
1. Shut the car off and see if the cross shift pops back to the center neutral position.
2. Start the car, place the shift selector switch in neutral - does the cross shift go hard left
3. Check voltage on the rear most terminal on the solenoid valves - it should be 0 volts
4. Disconnect the vacuum line on the left side of the cross shift - this is a bit difficult as the line is on the bottom below the cross shift switch. Is there vacuum there?

Stop as soon as you get a yes to any of these questions - you have found the problem
Give me a call if you have any questions, I am in the directory or I will PM you with my number.
Good luck! and let us know how you make out.
Jim

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13 Jul 2020 05:39 #40510 by Blackiron
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Car drives ands shifts well, but have just noticed after thirty years that the cross shift lever is hard left (looking from front) when idling in neutral with the clutch depressed. I cannot find in the shop notes where the neutral position should be, but it seems logical that it should be in mid position.
Do I have a problem or are all Cords this way ? . Can anyone help.

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