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Engine Won't Crank
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I took the starter off, tested it with my spare battery. It spun.
Put everything back together and BAM, we have ignition! (A slight Apollo 11 reference!).
I didn't take the starter apart to see if a spring was broken, but for now I'll take my chances.
Thanks again to all of you in the club who held my hand during this learning experience. You're all the BEST!
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When you can drive your car thru the ACD parade at 102 degrees , shut it off down on the square , wait a few minutes and it fires off right away , the starting system is in good order.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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Bendix is the name brand but its used so much referring to the spring drive inside the starter. What happens internally is as the starter just begins to spin the gear is pushed towards the flywheel ring gear. Once the gears mesh the engine begins to rotate. When the engine is running releasing the key to the run position or the startix gets the message from the generator making power. It tell the startix to cut the flow of power to the starter.Then the bendix spring pulls the starter gear back to a normal position.Sometime this spring breaks. That can cause the starter gear to drag or jam into the flywheel gear.
Being a new person asking questions is nothing to be ashamed of.We were ALL that your place one time or two. Information is power.The more information you have , the more power you have to make decisions.
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Wish you would take photos of the cables, and do check the grounds in the chassis and motor..
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Grounding within the starter motor is suspect. With age the rivets that connect the grounding brushes to the starter end plate build up a resistance.
( have a fix for that) That starter pulls 600+ amps .
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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Starter shaft
You be correct in thinking that Bendix is a parts
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Sorry to such a rookie, but what is the "Bendix"? I've seen that term referring to several parts.
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If Bendix is stuck you'll hear it snap back. At this point I’d
pull the starter and make sure Bendix is not broke and use jumper cables from a 6v battery and see how she spins.
Rick the car with it out like in 2 gear and see if motor moves.
Remember the car is
Positive ground if wired originally
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Bad or stuck starter?
The connections are all tight with no corrosion.
Best way to check this would be? Mike's idea sounds reasonable if I can get under the car. It currently sits stuck half way up my lift ramp.
By "clutch plate" and "Bendix" is this referring to the starter? Or is there a plate under the actual clutch?
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cover off under the car and make sure the Bendix drive is not stuck into the flywheel gear. A quick and cheap way to check for too much draw is to see if the wire gets very hot If so there is too much resistance in whatever the wire feeds. If the cable too the starter gets very hot, for example,it would tell you the starter is trying to work but for some reason can't.
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Give me a call on the number I sent you under the private messages.
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I've tried a couple of things now. My amp gauge (Fluke) showed nothing with the ING on, (-) probe on the out wire to the starter and the button depressed.
Also I tried bypassing the Startix by putting battery power (-) directly to the starter. Nothing but sparks.
I tried rocking the car in gear but it didn't seem to turn the engine at all.
I SO appreciate your guidance!
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Can you turn the engine over by rocking the car in gear; if the bendix is stuck that could release it?
Let us know how you make out.
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I'm sorry to ask, but could you be more specific? How & where do I check the draw?
To bypass the startix, do I connect the battery directly to the starter?
The condition of the cables...Corrosion, or ?
Thanks for your help!
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Bypass the startix
Check the condition of the ends of the cables
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I'm at a loss.
Like I said earlier, it seemed to fade to this point, with the last few starts delayed and becoming weaker, but at least it did crank.
Any more ideas now that the battery has been ruled out?
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Any recommendations on a replacement battery? I've read about using 2 Optima 6V batteries in parallel. I'm not sure what that means. Thanks!
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Are your cable. Like 00 and not like 12v car battery size. I bought a car which had small cable and eventually it would spin the motor. Changed to large cable and walla.
Make sure Bendix is not locked on to ring gear too.
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Got home last night from showing off my 852 and when I was putting it away, the STX became more and more non-responsive until finally now all I get is a clicking noise from the Startix. The battery is fully charged. Any ideas as to where I should look first? The Startix itself is a rebuilt one from about 2 years ago. Thanks for any advice you can offer.
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