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20 Jun 2019 12:28 #37554 by Buckeye87
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Thanks Randy. Sounds like the car has made the rounds around the country.

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20 Jun 2019 01:44 #37553 by RandyEma
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Hello. Yes this is a certified car A313 and it has been a little bit of every where .Ind .Mich. Ca. Az. Now Mo. R
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20 Jun 2019 00:09 #37552 by mikespeed35
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There's a reason for that. THERE OLD.
CORDiallyMike

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19 Jun 2019 22:25 - 20 Jun 2019 14:55 #37548 by johnmereness
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It does sport an original radiator cap - that rarely ever is seen on even the best restored of cars

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19 Jun 2019 21:54 - 19 Jun 2019 22:21 #37547 by johnmereness
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Randy Ema may have some early history of the car - he had history on my 852 Phaeton back to late 1940's (it was a California owned car though so was in his neck of the woods).

You cannot put an 8 in a 6 - they are far too different beasts for that. You can though change a Coupe to a Convertible (and plenty have met this fate) and you can transplant a 6 cylinder body onto an 8 cylinder frame (and there are a few of these cars meeting such fate too)

And many cars over time suffered bum engines (Lycombing was not know for its casting quality) and put in the wrong one of the three or so different styles (which involve more or less the right hand side of the engine via screw on water jacket or freeze plug style).

And, you can have 851 that were changed by dealers to 852 - this is no big deal and pretty common (sales in 35 were rough and 36 pretty bad too).

6 cylinder bumpers are pretty common as 8 cyl cars are pretty rare and lot of them were driven hard and put away wet (they really are more or less the first "hot rods" or "sports cars" using the terminology loosely of course). Lots of cars have 6 cyl window cranks - they are surprisingly plentiful NOS while 8 cyl with the bakelight knob are quite rare in original and even more rare NOS (I just bought a set of 4 NOS 6 cyl handles to replate and replace knobs with my original 852 Bakelite). Also, many cars have the substitute of Model A Ford mirror glass - the proper rounded edge mirrors have been unavailable for Auburns and Cords at certain times.

I would worry more with a million dollar speedster than any other body style.

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17 Jun 2019 19:38 #37514 by Buckeye87
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Thanks John. Spoke to Curt S. and he was incredibly helpful as well. He spoke VERY highly of your knowledge level on these cars. I want to make sure this was not an original 6cyl car that had an V8 engine swap.
Curt noted (as you did), several parts were from a 6cyl-bumper, mirror, window cranks..

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17 Jun 2019 19:17 #37510 by johnmereness
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A really really good car - I highly recommend Auburns over all CCCA cars.

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17 Jun 2019 01:22 #37492 by Buckeye87
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Btw-read the 2011 article on your 1935 Phaeton...very nice. I appreciate your comments.
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15 Jun 2019 18:07 #37469 by johnmereness
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Curt Schulze via Auburns Midwest has been a blessing as to parts as a fair number of the cars have been driven hard and put away wet. And, there are a few other people that have their niches as to parts and mechanics. With a car like this 1936 that is on Hymanltd's site the answer is that it just depends on the quality of the mechanical work done all be it if you can drive it for 20 minutes you stand a solid chance. A S/C car is a lot more work all be it one set up properly should give most people a lifetime of service. Routine maintenance parts are generally not an issue to get. I will forewarn - the car will only perform as good as what you are willing to spend on it - ie they do not run down the road on pocket change.

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15 Jun 2019 17:53 #37468 by Buckeye87
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Also, how hard is it source parts for these cars?

Thanks again for the info.

Wes
Columbus, OH

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15 Jun 2019 17:49 #37467 by Buckeye87
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Th anks for the info John. Incredibly helpful. Was looking to see if it is in the registry. Also, I posted the sn and engine number. The car looks great and I just am trying to due some background research on the car.
SN is 5149F, Engine = GG4024. I have pics of both.

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15 Jun 2019 17:15 #37463 by Curt Schulze
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Non s/c intakes 6 & 8 are engine green. s/c intakes are silver, as per the factory engineering parts lists

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Be of Good Cheer
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15 Jun 2019 16:54 - 15 Jun 2019 17:59 #37461 by johnmereness
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If you are looking at the Red 1936 Auburn 852 Cabriolet - it is a nice car (notice the AACA National First, Senior and Primary badges on the cowl and the ACD winner badges on the grill)

It could use the pinstripe on the spare tire cover and Auburn used a stencil/decal for an Auburn script on the tire cover (that needs added).

The rear bumper may be from 6 cylinder.

You want to check the serial number as it is a water jacket engine verses a freeze plug style engine and water jacket engines are typically 1935 style all be have seen just about everything at this point. Some unsold 35's were by a factory kit converted to 36's.

The Statix should be cadmium plated

And the oil filter should be a different style canister disposable type (all be it what is installed is very nice).

The intake manifold should be the green of the engine, but there is countless controversy on its color.

The spark plug wires should be shiny black cloth wire.

The air cleaner is a very close substitute, but not 100% correct.

And, there are some additional small details that are incorrect and way too many stainless bolts under the hood.

There are very few any better (ie really a super nice car) and I would tell you a very fair price and in the famous words of the card game Euchre "pick-it-up."

JMM
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12 Jun 2019 16:57 #37431 by Buckeye87
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SN is 5149F, Engine = GG4024. I have pics of both.

Thanks for your help!

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11 Jun 2019 11:36 #37414 by Curt Schulze
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Correct, the Salon name was dropped after 1933.

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Be of Good Cheer
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11 Jun 2019 04:08 - 11 Jun 2019 04:09 #37413 by mikespeed35
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There is no 1936 852 Salon. It is a 1936 852 Auburn Cab.

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11 Jun 2019 01:01 #37412 by Buckeye87
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Hi Jim,
Sent you the info. Thanks for your help.

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10 Jun 2019 19:28 #37410 by JIM.OBRIEN
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If you tell me the serial number and engine number I can tell you if the car has been certified. You can email me at cordman@dejazzd

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10 Jun 2019 17:04 #37409 by Buckeye87
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Hi ACD Members, I'm looking to buy a 1936 852 Salon. The car is currently listed at Hyman LTD. Is there a way to check to see if it has been certified? Any help would be appreciated. Love the cars, just don't want to make a $$mistake. Thanks!

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