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11 Apr 2022 23:25 #45170 by HYNES
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Totally agree Curt. I plan on putting about 15,000 miles on it a year so has to be a solid build.

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11 Apr 2022 22:42 #45169 by Curt Schulze
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It dosn't piss me off, it is your car, you can do what ever you want with it. I do not know much about a 59 Jag engine, But it may be a bit much for that Dual Ratio. Put a 9 inch Ford in there.

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11 Apr 2022 22:01 #45167 by HYNES
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I am going to be running a 1959 jaguar mark 1 engine (great story on how that came about) . I like the looks and power it puts out but it still fits the "feel" of a Auburn when you look under the hood . Think of it as a 60's high end hot rod.
See how I pissed off all sorts of classic car groups in just one sentence?

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11 Apr 2022 19:58 #45166 by Curt Schulze
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If you are going to run an original engine and trans , I would use the dual-ratio
diff. if you have a hemi, I would say NO. back in the day an Auburn six would stay ahead of Ford V8's and many other cars of the era. Heck, I had a restored 48 Chevy that would not keep up with or stop as well as the 6 cyl sedan.

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11 Apr 2022 16:52 #45165 by HYNES
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Once again you are a wealth of information Curt, but I do think his rear end belongs under a car that is 100% Auburn, your thought on that Curt?

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11 Apr 2022 14:51 #45163 by Curt Schulze
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That pot-metal part that caused all the problems is E60438 ( Early on or before Feb. 1935 or late, Feb 1935 to the end in 1936 E62467 . Both have been reproduced in steel. This does not include 1931-1933 they are a different breed of cat.

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10 Apr 2022 23:12 #45162 by HYNES
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Thanks Brad but with what I have been told and read about the 2 speed ad its issues with the pot metal internal part I think I'm going to go something something much more robust. That said I think many members with complete # matching cars would jump at the chance to get a proper one for their cars.

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10 Apr 2022 20:10 #45161 by Brad Hoskins
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Are you looking for a 2 speed rear end?
I am getting tired of moving one around my shop.
Problem is , I'm on the left side of the country

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09 Apr 2022 02:30 #45153 by HYNES
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I don't mind showing you a pic but it is not a factory body but a fiberglass one. My plan is to run the glass body and later build a aluminum one for it. I have no intentions of trying to fool anyone with it nor represent it for something it is not. In my thinking; putting a original Auburn frame under it should give the proper stance/ appearance along with a similar ride to factory built cars. At the end of the day I should have a very respectable tribute car that I don't have to deal with insane insurance policy restrictions and be able to drive it anywhere with much less stress than I have had with some of my other vehicles.

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09 Apr 2022 00:15 #45152 by Curt Schulze
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I have R&R many transmissions to work on the clutch. It is my opinion the throwout bearing is the tough nut to crack. A second person helps alot.

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08 Apr 2022 19:10 #45146 by yorkgulch
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Curt thanks for correction on bellhousing indeed being a separate part. I took a couple of pictures to illustrate that. In reference to original question about clutch and brake install. You really need to put engine, bellhousing, flywheel, clutch assembly, and transmission in as an preassembled unit probably how factory did it. Much easier! I've done transmission and clutch/pressure plate and transmission with engine moved forward a bit. It's a pain.

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08 Apr 2022 16:33 #45145 by Curt Schulze
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When you get a moment send be some pix of your car .
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08 Apr 2022 14:32 #45144 by HYNES
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Good, then you are a wealth of information. Best news is as you have made it very clear it does not belong under my car, I now have no reason to keep it around or feel guilty removing it. Thanks again Curt.

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08 Apr 2022 12:21 #45143 by Curt Schulze
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That rear end is NOT 1934 - 1936 Auburn 6 or 8. I have been selling 1934-1936 Auburn parts for 25+ years and have 8 Auburns including six cylinders.

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08 Apr 2022 00:10 - 08 Apr 2022 00:18 #45142 by HYNES
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Thanks Curt, I was told this is the base model rear end for a Auburn and was swapped out for the two speed this chassis came with (the factory air lines for the two speed clearly visible) . Given it has the 3.75 indexing for the rims and the tapered shafts to the drums has the proper wms to wms and is the 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern, I am leaning towards it being as such. That said it is well out of spec and not something I plan on using in the final product as my goal here is for reliability.
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07 Apr 2022 21:43 #45141 by Curt Schulze
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The rear diff shown in the earlier pictures is not Auburn . Craig, the engine block and the bell housing have two different partnumbers. You need the 1934 parts book and the 35-36 supplement. The diff is not 1934-1936 Auburn single speed. Yes ,the two-speed diff was an option. The Dual Ratio is what set Auburns apart from most all cars of the 30's . Cruise all day at 65MPH.
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04 Apr 2022 18:56 #45127 by yorkgulch
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Text with clutch pictures disappeared. Bellhousing is part of block. You need that for clutch/ brake mounting. Get parts and supplement early on. Has exploded diagrams and parts numbers helps alot. Museum has those.
Rear end could be auburn single speed. The dual ratio i believe was an option.

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04 Apr 2022 18:44 #45126 by yorkgulch
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04 Apr 2022 17:04 #45125 by pete kelly
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PM sent with contact info.
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04 Apr 2022 16:42 - 04 Apr 2022 17:24 #45124 by HYNES
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Yes sir.
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04 Apr 2022 16:02 #45123 by pete kelly
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I recognize that frame. Are you from Canada too?
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04 Apr 2022 15:18 #45122 by yorkgulch
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The chassis number should be numbers only. 2 to 4 numbers. It is a later chassis you can tell because it has the Delco lovejoy shocks. I believe all chassis were the same. The speedster had frame extensions of about 7 inches i think. Don't know about rear axle.

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04 Apr 2022 14:33 #45121 by HYNES
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04 Apr 2022 14:30 #45120 by HYNES
Hello all.
Just purchased a 1935-36 chassis with 127 inches of wheelbase. This is my first true Auburn part so looking to know the facts from the best, hence why I came here.
1. Is this the standard rear end for a Auburn?
I am guessing , he swapped it in place of the original 2 speed given the vacuum control lines are still on the frame but little info can I find on anything but the 2 speed style. It has tapered shafts and the 5 on 5.5 pattern with the 8 cylinder 3.75 registration for the rims, making it very possible in my eyes. If it is would it be the proper wheel mounted surfaces to wheel mounted surface as the 2 speed?

2. Chassis numbers. It would appear to read F114 but nothing more above or below. Is this all there is?

3. What is the difference in this frame vs a speedster frame?

4. Given my goal here is to use what is here and any modifications or additions to be nothing that can not be undone ( no welding just brackets to existing holes when necessary), where is the best place to get detailed photos of what the missing bits for clutch / brake assembly looked like?

5. I pulled the rims off the car and they were 8 cylinder ones ( 3.75 registration ) and would like to run the Speedster style tires (7.00-16 if I'm not mistaken) . I do know they make a 7.00r16 in a lookalike but how do they look sitting still? do they have that radial bulge at the bottom ? Lots of people sell them but I want something for driving not just a car show and no issues.

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