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06 Nov 2020 19:16 #41428 by DONALD.ELMER
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Hi Pete...
It seems that my door handle has been modified and I am in the process of disassembling it to see exactly what has been done. Thank you for all the pictures. Stay tuned.
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31 Oct 2020 14:21 #41361 by pete kelly
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the rest of the pics
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31 Oct 2020 14:19 #41360 by pete kelly
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Trying to clarify the situation but may be going the other way.
I do not know if Yale and Basco both made handles for Auburn in 31-3(Randy would know this)
3 locking handles; pics in order
Handle #1- bottom right-1 key; pics 2-4, could be Auburn
-handle chromed with lock cylinder in place-bad idea
-lock cylinder stuck, Faith Chicago key, handle junk
Handle #2-center handle-1 key with ring, pics 5-7
-after market, bezel in bad pot metal
-lock cyl stuck, locked position alows handle to spin freely
Handle #3-LH handle in first pic,-2 keys Basco;pics 8-12, could be Auburn
-shows bezel with insert which locks the handle
-pics show tongue in the locked and unlocked positions
-pin hole near the tongue may be used to remove the lock cyl(don't know)
-operates properly
-hole in the usual place to remove lock cyl is just a depression
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31 Oct 2020 00:15 #41354 by DONALD.ELMER
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Also, since I have owned this car since 1965, any "modification" of the handle occurred a long time ago. When I bought the car, it had been converted to a chicken coop in the hills to the east of Seattle-Tacoma. Slowly, and surely, all the mysteries are coming to the surface. This makes for an interesting project and provides great fun!
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31 Oct 2020 00:10 #41353 by DONALD.ELMER
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Thanks Pete...
I think you might be right... I've put lock fluid on and there is no movement beyond the what I can feel by inserting the key.

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30 Oct 2020 23:11 #41352 by pete kelly
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I posted the above reply before I saw your last post.
The door handle operates by locking the handle in the escutcheon in the door so the whole handle will not turn.
Someone seems to have modified your handle.
1-the handle should be 1 piece
2-trying to remove the cylinder should require inserting the paper clip not much more than 1/8". I suspect your handle is just a dummy
I will look tomorrow and see if I have a repairable handle or a junk 1 so you can see how it works.
Time to ask if anyone has a good handle for sale.
Pete

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30 Oct 2020 22:57 #41351 by pete kelly
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Please note the position of the spring loaded retaining tongue in the pics relative to the key.
The lock cylinder must be turned so the paper clip pushes on the center of the tongue; you can feel the spring tension as you depress the tongue. Once depressed and held in(down) rotate the cylinder back and forth slightly with a key while pulling and it should come out.
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30 Oct 2020 21:57 #41349 by DONALD.ELMER
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Here is my handle and, sure enough, the "drain hole" seems to be in the same position as the handle in the previous photo. I'm able to press a thin rod about 5/8th of an inch into that hole. I don't feel anything except what seems to be end of the hole.

Question: are there two parts to this handle; first is copper colored handle and second is the silver colored end that fits into the door lock mechanism. Is the silver end suppose to turn inside the door handle?
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30 Oct 2020 16:08 #41342 by johnmereness
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The die cast often swells on the lock cylinder - use care and take plenty of time.

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30 Oct 2020 04:00 #41335 by 1748 S
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Sadly your locksmith is wrong. If you look at the key cylinders Pete offered up for pics you see the small piece of metal near the bottom of the cylinders 1, 3 and I think 5.Well when you push in a piece of wire into the "DRAIN HOLE"... That piece moves up into the cylinder. Then you just pull the cylinder out of the handle. If it wont budge try some Aerokroil or PB Blaster to loosen the spring. They do come out ez.


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30 Oct 2020 03:43 #41334 by DONALD.ELMER
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Pete...

First of all, thank you for your effort to help me out! My door handle does have the small hole exactly where you suggested that it would be... a local locksmith said the hole was simply for drainage. I will fiddle with this tomorrow as you suggested and let you know what the outcome is.

Again, thanks!

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28 Oct 2020 15:16 #41323 by pete kelly
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Morning
Here are pics of an Auburn handle showing the small hole thru which you must depress a retaining ring which holds the lock cylinder in place; a paper clip works well.
The other pics show several lock cylinders with and without script keys, all yale except the very right key(Chicago).
The LH cylinder and non-script key would work for you;UNLESS you have an after market door handle. As a general rule aftermarket handles do not have the small peak above the cylinder hole. If you want a pic I can get 1.
My 2 cents
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26 Oct 2020 02:45 #41306 by DONALD.ELMER
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Thanks for your reply. My handle does not appear to have removable lock cylinder . Did these door handles have lock cylinders that were pressed into the handle and are not removable?

My problem is a lack of understanding for the original design (plus a general lack of knowledge about door handle locks in particular). As you can tell, I need help on an elementary level.

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26 Oct 2020 02:45 #41305 by DONALD.ELMER
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Thanks for your reply. My handle does not appear to have removable lock cylinder . Did these door handles have lock cylinders that were pressed into the handle and are not removable?

My problem is a lack of understanding for the original design (plus a general lack of knowledge about door handle locks in particular). As you can tell, I need help on an elementary level.

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24 Oct 2020 20:26 #41287 by johnmereness
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I am not sure the script key runs the doors, I think it runs the ignition. The other keys are "Yale Junior" keys I believe. Anyway, a good lock smith should have no issues with blanks or getting key made, the only problem tends to be if the lock is decent via being in a die cast housing and any other damage to lock.

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24 Oct 2020 11:51 #41277 by pete kelly
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Use a generic key blank to perfect the blank before you cut an Auburn script key. I do not know who made the Auburn script key blanks but they were also used on 36-7 Cord so maybe post a wanted there.
You might want to contact Jarvis; he has hundreds of pounds of keys and locks and is very knowledgeable; he is located in Washington state. Use the address below.

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24 Oct 2020 04:53 #41276 by DONALD.ELMER
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Thanks... where do I go to find these? A good locksmith here in Seattle told me that he might need 6 or 7 blanks in order to make a usable key.

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23 Oct 2020 12:59 #41258 by pete kelly
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Originally Auburn sold keys already cut to fit your lock and they were AUBURN script. See the pic
10 or more years ago someone made script keys uncut; this would be your best bet as any locksmith could cut it to fit your lock.
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23 Oct 2020 04:44 #41255 by DONALD.ELMER
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My locking door handle lacks a key... where do I find key blanks or who can repair this?

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