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New Interior for 851/2 replica

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17 May 2019 15:41 - 09 Sep 2020 21:23 #37233 by AuburnNut
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Here is the second, typically earlier design. If I’m correct, the customer may have picked either design...not sure, but the important thing is there are 2 basic designs that you can replicate if you are trying to be original.
This second design, with flat panels of leather, was a technique that was used among fine coach builders around the world. In fact, I owned a Bentley with the same design. One of the reasons the style became out of favor was the expense in creating the seat. A large flat panel of leather requires a large high quality hide. It is often difficult to get large pieces of leather without flaws....and there is a lot of wastage.....this is ultimately why pleats became a more practical alternative for car builders.
It really is a personal preference as to what you like. I prefer the pleated seats (marginally) over the plain design
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17 May 2019 15:52 - 30 May 2019 12:09 #37234 by AuburnNut
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Now below is a design that is Not original. It is of the period, and I believe is sympathetic to the period of the car....which is a good thing. Once again, personal preference plays a role here. I prefer to replicate something close to original, but I still think this is an acceptable choice for a replica.
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17 May 2019 16:09 - 30 May 2019 12:09 #37237 by AuburnNut
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Below is a photo of the interior of a Speedster replica that is currently for sale. I absolutely dislike this interior....both the modern seat design and the modern door card design. To me, it appears to be totally out of character to the design of the rest of the car.....which is superb. To me, this treatment of the interior is like buying an Edwardian period house and then fitting the interior with modern furniture...I just don’t think it goes together. Now I’m expressing a personal opinion here. The seats may certainly be very functional and comfortable, but I just don’t believe it’s a good choice to match the elegant design of the magnificent body of this car which was designed in the 1930’s. I see similar mistakes in instrumentation, steering wheel selection, and steering columns used in some replicas. I generally believe the less a replica looks of the 1930’s period, the less it is worth on the car market,
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17 May 2019 16:35 - 30 May 2019 12:10 #37238 by AuburnNut
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So now, assuming you want to continue to go down the path of replicating a seat design that is pretty close to the original, like I have, you may need to make a few more decisions. If you are going to do the pleated design (as I did) your upholsterer will want to know how many pleats to have in the design. My seat has 12 pleats in total on both the bottom cushion and the back cushion plus one large strip that goes across the seat cushion (on each cushion). There is some confusion in my mind on this. When I look at original grey looking old leather interior photo I posted earlier and shown again below, it appears to have 12 thin strips of leather (which is what I modeled my interior off). But I have seen quite a few other interiors that have 13 panels. In fact, 13 panels appears in a drawing below that was created by a motor trimmer many years ago and was supposedly correct. Maybe Curt or some other club specialist can confirm their thoughts. In my case, each pleat is approximately 3 inches wide with the outer 2 pleats being nearly 4 inches.
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17 May 2019 16:53 - 30 May 2019 12:10 #37239 by AuburnNut
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Another thing you will notice when comparing photos is the location of the horizontal large strip of leather varies. If you look at the original grey colored interior the large horizontal strip on the bottom cushion goes about 45% into the depth of the seat, whereas the rear cushion has a strip about 33% into the cushion surface. This is rarely replicated in my observation, and was certainly not done in my seat. I kept these horizontal strips to approx 30% of visible surface are on top and bottom cushions. I felt that looked a bit better.....but it’s once again a small change, and personal preference.
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17 May 2019 17:16 - 17 May 2019 17:25 #37240 by Curt Schulze
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I am very familiar with the speedster that you post the seat picture of. It belongs to a personal friend of mine. That car was in my shop for a few months. Both the backrest and seat have 13 pleats. The original color is black.

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