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Looking for bits of wisdom towards purchase of 2nd Gen/Replica
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I ended up buying a Speedster Motorcars that was made in 2011. They are worth looking at and have been selling in the $80's to 90's. I would only recommend the later Speedsters as they had refined the car quite nicely. It is also important to understand what is most important to you. For example, I thought I wanted a 4 seater until I realized they really change the look of the original dimensions. Some are stretched, and some have a shortened boattail. Legroom seemed very tight. You really need to drive the candidates as things like feel of the pedals, steering, ride, appearance, etc. can be not to your preference. I liked the Speedster except I changed all 4 of the coil/over springs to soften the ride and allow for ride firmness adjustment. Now the car rides and drives great.
Have fun on the hunt!
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MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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I contacted Doug Pray (at your suggestion) and he was kind enough to answer my question to him which was....
“I’m told on the ACD club forum that there are about 17 early Glenn Pray cars which used lots of original parts. Could you tell me typically what price those cars sell for on the market. Just looking for a really rough ballpark. I know it always depends on condition”
...and Doug’s reply was.....
A GP Cord @35k
A Speedster @85k
A dual cowl @100k
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MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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It sold for around 30 (not running) and went to France.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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www.acdfactory.com/g3superchargedauburnspeedster.html
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The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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1) Design differences of one speedster vs another and decide what’s important to you.
A) MECHANICALS: choose either a modern fuel injected engine and 4 speed transmission or whether you are happy to have an older style engine with 3 speed transmission. Of course you can buy a car with older mechanicals and upgrade to something more modern if you are up for a project
BODY FEATURES: choose from a regular 2 seater style (most common) or a 4 seater style (harder to find). Decide if you like a certain number of exhausts exiting the hood area. Glenn Pray proponents appear to get excited about the fact that the stainless exhausts in those cars contain real exhaust pipes (similar to the original Auburn) whereas most other manufacturers have non functional stainless exhausts. I don’t really care about that feature, but rather it always annoys me to see later 2nd gen Glenn Pray cars with only 2 exhausts exiting the hood area, versus the original cars which had 4 exhausts. I think 2 exhausts looks really weird. Most other manufacturers have 4 exhausts, but 4 on each side of the car. The original Auburn only has 4 exhausts exiting the driver side of the car. I like the balance of 4 exhausts on each side, so it doesn’t worry me. Another feature on Glenn Pray cars that I personally don’t like is the additional body panel that sits next to the rear wheel arches. It accommodates the higher chassis rail design that Pray engineered around the rear wheels. No other manufacturer used this approach to my knowledge, and it is in my opinion a significant negative design departure by Pray compared to the original Gordon Buehrig design of the Auburn Speedster. It is the principal reason I have chosen not to have a late model Glenn Pray car. That being said, they are still great cars. In fact Glenn’s very rare early replicas used a number of original Auburn parts....but are very rare, and very hard to find. The majority of a Glenn Pray cars are the later standard design my comments reflect.
Another major difference in body features concerns how the hood operates. An original Auburn Speedster has two hood leaves, and it pivots in the Centre. Some replicas have a single large hood which does not pivot in the Centre (like the Pray car’s) but rather on the side of the car. I like it pivoting in the Centre. It makes the body look more authentic to me.
Another Body difference concerns how the convertible top flap looks. Some replicas have these that are too large in my opinion, and differ from the original.
Another body design feature which differs concerns the fuel cap style and location. The original car has a fuel cap on the passenger side, near to the rear passenger side tail light. Some replicas have them located on the wrong side (driver side) while others have them incorrectly located on the vertical surface of the rear Boattail section.
There are other differences, but this note is getting too long. At some point I plan to write an article showing the differences between the various manufacturers when compared to the original.
Anyway, I chose an Elegant Motors speedster. I like their design and attention to detail.
Hope this helps. Regards Jerome
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Curt Schulze wrote: There are a few on eBay right now. Give me a call, I am in the directory.
It's great to know that we have various contacts to ask from. I might give this a try as well.
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The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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If I were you I would speak with Felix DeGeyter at Auburn Cord Duesenberg Compay at Broken Arrow , Oklahoma where the Glenn Pray machines were originally conceived and built. Felix was Glenn's right hand man and is very knowledgeable on this subject. Felix's E-mail is [email protected] and his cell phone is (918) 812-4070. Good luck in your search . Jonathan Richards #1080 @ Chesterfield, MO / My cell Phone is Area 712/621-1854
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