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11 Apr 2019 22:18 #36991
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MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
Replied by MICHAEL S SMITH on topic Looking for bits of wisdom towards purchase of 2nd Gen/Replica
I spoke to Glenn shortly before his passing and he told me he still had the original molds which were exact copies basically, correct rear boat tail dimensions etc. The Irskin?( forgve spelling ) brothers built a pair with all original interior,instrumentation etc. virtually indistinguishable from original unless you drop to look at front axle (as I recall they had late model ford power. to me these will always be the king of the speedster replicas.
MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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11 Apr 2019 22:41 #36992
by MICHAEL S SMITH
MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
Replied by MICHAEL S SMITH on topic Looking for bits of wisdom towards purchase of 2nd Gen/Replica
Another unusual speedster I know of was one built by Bob Adams son of Wisconsin (forgive my failing memory for names), he took an original Auburn complete and correct supercharged frame running gear interior the car was perfect except he used an original metal superchargegh schoold hood so it sat to low as body allowed for fiberglass hoods much thicker profile. it sold to the Lincoln dealer in Mansfield Ohio back when the auction was still at the high school, checked it out 10 years ago he still had car but was not to realistic on current value ( he saw an original sell at auction for 475k so his was the same), so keep the faith there are a lot of cars still out there.
MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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12 Apr 2019 01:01 #36994
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Greg,
I contacted Doug Pray (at your suggestion) and he was kind enough to answer my question to him which was....
“I’m told on the ACD club forum that there are about 17 early Glenn Pray cars which used lots of original parts. Could you tell me typically what price those cars sell for on the market. Just looking for a really rough ballpark. I know it always depends on condition”
...and Doug’s reply was.....
A GP Cord @35k
A Speedster @85k
A dual cowl @100k
I contacted Doug Pray (at your suggestion) and he was kind enough to answer my question to him which was....
“I’m told on the ACD club forum that there are about 17 early Glenn Pray cars which used lots of original parts. Could you tell me typically what price those cars sell for on the market. Just looking for a really rough ballpark. I know it always depends on condition”
...and Doug’s reply was.....
A GP Cord @35k
A Speedster @85k
A dual cowl @100k
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12 Apr 2019 01:14 #36995
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It appears that Doug Pray is moderate in his valuation for the three categories. I have always found Doug and Felix DeGeyter ( Glenn Pray's #1 associate from the early days of the Pickle Factory ) to be very business like but fair. Perhaps they can help you locate and purchase one of the early Pray replicars. Good luck in your search, Jack Richards.
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12 Apr 2019 01:36 #36996
by MICHAEL S SMITH
MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
Replied by MICHAEL S SMITH on topic Looking for bits of wisdom towards purchase of 2nd Gen/Replica
As I recall they built app. 15-17 late bodies(35-36) and also cast around 25 mid year (31-34) speedster bodies virtually all of those ended up on stock drive trains, got a sedan? buy the body all fenders hood etc bolt up as original and you're driving a speedster.
MICHAEL S SMITH ACD LIFE MEMBER #40
851 auburn phaeton
851 auburn sedan
810 cord westchester
812 cord phaeton(ex Tressler Swiss)
812 cord custom s/c beverly
812 cord s/c cabriolet
812 cord s/c beverly
80 866 speedster (pray factory built)
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13 Apr 2019 00:26 - 13 Apr 2019 23:27 #37002
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I second the suggestion to contact Felix DeGeyter. He is a wonderful gent and can really offer some help. He gave me several great leads on Glenn Pray cars a couple of years ago. I also spent some time with him at last year's ACD Festival in Auburn, IN. The cars I visited were all in excellent condition and ready to enjoy. The Glenn Pray's I saw (none were the early models mentioned above) were in the $60's, 80's, and 90's.
I ended up buying a Speedster Motorcars that was made in 2011. They are worth looking at and have been selling in the $80's to 90's. I would only recommend the later Speedsters as they had refined the car quite nicely. It is also important to understand what is most important to you. For example, I thought I wanted a 4 seater until I realized they really change the look of the original dimensions. Some are stretched, and some have a shortened boattail. Legroom seemed very tight. You really need to drive the candidates as things like feel of the pedals, steering, ride, appearance, etc. can be not to your preference. I liked the Speedster except I changed all 4 of the coil/over springs to soften the ride and allow for ride firmness adjustment. Now the car rides and drives great.
Have fun on the hunt!
I ended up buying a Speedster Motorcars that was made in 2011. They are worth looking at and have been selling in the $80's to 90's. I would only recommend the later Speedsters as they had refined the car quite nicely. It is also important to understand what is most important to you. For example, I thought I wanted a 4 seater until I realized they really change the look of the original dimensions. Some are stretched, and some have a shortened boattail. Legroom seemed very tight. You really need to drive the candidates as things like feel of the pedals, steering, ride, appearance, etc. can be not to your preference. I liked the Speedster except I changed all 4 of the coil/over springs to soften the ride and allow for ride firmness adjustment. Now the car rides and drives great.
Have fun on the hunt!
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