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26 Jan 2014 01:48 #26762 by alsancle
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Steve Derus wrote: I guess I expected J-391 to achieve a higher amount. I was thinking $2 million.


Colors are not great. 1.4 is a premium on a standard Murphy Conv sedan. Not sure that it is worth more than that.

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26 Jan 2014 01:59 #26765 by Steve Derus
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I saw the car so long ago when it was on loan at the Petersen Museum that I can't really recall much about it, although I do remember the colors being rather bland. Evidently it had a high quality restoration.

But it's a Murphy Berline, not a convertible sedan. The Berline has the swept cowl and more raked windshield along with lower production numbers. Add to that the Tyrone Power history, and from what I can tell it has all its original components.

Maybe it would have done better at RM Scottsdale or Monterrey.

Just sayin'

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26 Jan 2014 10:51 #26771 by landmark
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Steve Derus wrote: Mecum results....

J-391 no sale at high bid of $1.4 million.

J-255 no sale at high bid of $1.1 million.



Hello,

thank you for the information.

Isn't it a kind of "funny"?! Mecum plublished (in their online-announcement) for J-255 an estimate of $1.0-1.5 million and then they won't sale it at a $1.1 million bid? <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->


Here is one more result. Gooding published a salesprice of $2.09 million for J-129 LeBaron DCP


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Matt

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26 Jan 2014 17:15 #26778 by alsancle
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I agree the Berline is a more desirable car than a standard conv sedan but I thought a 500k plus premium was a lot. Also, I have never liked the rear treatment.

J425 sold for 690k unrestored a few years back and that was a better looking car and originally supercharged.

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26 Jan 2014 18:55 #26785 by Steve Derus
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J-425 was the feature of an episode of "Chasing Classic Cars". I remember in the episode that the car did not run when it was sold, needed to be "recommissioned" after many years of storage, which I would think is not cheap. It was treated to a Nethercutt restoration before it was put in storage which I'm sure was top notch. $625k was no doubt a bargain for that car.

The rear trunk treatment on J-391 to me is stylish and sets the car apart, but of course that's a matter of personal taste.

I've always admired the looks of Richard Law's Murphy Berline (2374) a car I've seen on many occasions.

While on the subject of Murphy Berlines, I'm wondering how many were built?

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27 Jan 2014 00:16 #26789 by Chris Summers
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Not really the right venue (though I may be biased...) and definitely all the money, especially in today's market, for both cars.

I have a lot of sentimental attachment to J-391, but that doesn't change the fact it's a three-decade-old cosmetic restoration in colors that haven't aged well, and it's spent much of the last decade sitting. IMHO the money should've been taken and run with.

J-391 was one of, I believe, four cars with this styling. The Law car is a slightly different design.

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