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06 Feb 2011 00:26 #19162 by streamliner
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Here are three additional pix (the last of the nine I have). On the backs of the photos it says: "HORN-WOODLAND CA" on THIS PAPER MANUFACTURED BY KODAK (so they must be a reprint from the 1970's or 1980's). So then "Horn" must, of course, be Thel Horn (I'm slowly getting educated)...


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07 Feb 2011 17:07 #19166 by John Baeke
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The car is presently disassembled. Best photos are in the 2009 ACD Reunion book. Presently available for purchase on www.ACDMeets.org .

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07 Feb 2011 18:08 #19167 by John Baeke
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The 1938 V-12 LeBaron Duesenberg prototype. Phil Wright (of LeBaron) helped design the 5 different bodies from the firewall aft and the interiors. Buehrig and Newport designed from the firewall forward. Project was completed in 1936. Tremulis then made major modifications in 1937. The relative involvement of Buehrig, Tremulis, Ralph Roberts, et. al. is all confirmed by pay roll records.

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15 Feb 2011 17:16 #19272 by streamliner
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John,

This may help to date these pix. In the front view of the car, parts of another car can be seen parked right behind it. The only car I can find that has the eyebrows over the headlights and that particular trim on the door is a 1956 Pontiac. So whoever owned the Pontiac probably ended up buying the car from this owner right around 1956, maybe plus a year or two (but not minus)...




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17 Feb 2011 00:42 #19287 by Jonathan Richards
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GREAT DETECTIVE WORK , STREAMLINER !!!
NOT ONLY THE "EYEBROW" OVER THE RIGHT FRONT HEADLAMP IS A
MATCH BUT NOTE THE OPENED LEFT FRONT DOOR ON THE OTHER SIDE,
WITH THE TWO-TONED PAINT SEPARATED BY THE DROP DOWN AND THE
LEVEL SIDE MOULDINGS ON THE DOOR. IT APPEARS TO BE A CATALINA HARDTOP RATHER THAN A PILLARED SEDAN LIKR THE ONE WHICH YOU ATTACHED TO YOUR POST. IN THE MUSEUM BUSINESS IT WOULD LIKELY
BE SAID THAT THE PHOTO IS "CIRCA 1956". I HOPE DR. BAEKE WILL
POST ADDITIONAL PRESENT DAY PHOTO IMAGES OF THIS INTERESTING
PROTOTYPE VEHICLE AS THE RESTORATION PROCEEDS. Jack Richards,
Red Oak, Iowa aka <a href="mailto:acdjack@mchsi.com]acdjack@mchsi.com[/url]

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05 Mar 2011 16:29 #19468 by streamliner
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Sometimes it's hard to see the forrest through all the trees.

John, this may be the closest rendering I've found that has the same design cues as the LeBaron prototypes for the 1938 Duesenberg (and your car). This Connersville mockup is about as close as you can get to this styling proposal. The bumper!!! It's gotta be!




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