The Duesenberg Automobile Co first established

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09 Apr 2013 12:34 #24966 by West Peterson
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The January 2, 1915 issue of [u:33lqli0x][i:33lqli0x]Automobile Topics[/i:33lqli0x][/u:33lqli0x] states that the Duesenbergs have already set up shop on 2654 University Avenue in "Minneapolis."

This is an interesting account found in the Waterloo City Directory 1916:
"[Louis C.] Erbes was aquainted with Fred and August Duesenberg, and leased buildings to them [in St. Paul] to build their cars. He seems to have taken an interest in acquiring the company run by their old boss [Mason], as he makes an arrangement with Ira Hoover to buy the whole concerns. Erbes had grand schemes to use the factory to continue building cars, and manufacturing race cars for competetion, He spents a great deal of capital to bring in stock from other car makes that were defunct, like Cutting, Clarke-Carter, and Milwaukee, and his own car make of L.C.E. . He also had planned to manufacture the Blackhawk 48 there as well. Most of this new inventory was brought in from Jackson, Illinois by train. The entire business is now being called "The Mason Motor Parts Company", and even though he spends a great deal of money to get the stock to this factory, he fails to advertise much locally, and fails to win many races.
What he does do is preside over the auctioning and dismemberment of all the stock, equpment and the building itself on January 3rd and 4th, 1917, leaving only the factory building to the next occupant, and all the contents to be scattered across the country."[/i]

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09 Apr 2013 12:35 #24967 by West Peterson
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The January 2, 1915 issue of [u:3jf2jq52][i:3jf2jq52]Automobile Topics[/i:3jf2jq52][/u:3jf2jq52] states that the Duesenbergs have already set up shop on 2654 University Avenue in "Minneapolis."

This is an interesting account found in the Waterloo City Directory 1916:
"[Louis C.] Erbes was aquainted with Fred and August Duesenberg, and leased buildings to them [in St. Paul] to build their cars. He seems to have taken an interest in acquiring the company run by their old boss [Mason], as he makes an arrangement with Ira Hoover to buy the whole concerns. Erbes had grand schemes to use the factory to continue building cars, and manufacturing race cars for competetion, He spents a great deal of capital to bring in stock from other car makes that were defunct, like Cutting, Clarke-Carter, and Milwaukee, and his own car make of L.C.E. . He also had planned to manufacture the Blackhawk 48 there as well. Most of this new inventory was brought in from Jackson, Illinois by train. The entire business is now being called "The Mason Motor Parts Company", and even though he spends a great deal of money to get the stock to this factory, he fails to advertise much locally, and fails to win many races.
What he does do is preside over the auctioning and dismemberment of all the stock, equpment and the building itself on January 3rd and 4th, 1917, leaving only the factory building to the next occupant, and all the contents to be scattered across the country."[/i]

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09 Apr 2013 23:27 #24973 by hessacres
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L. C Erbes like Mr Mason was into automobile racing but relied on others to do the work. Apparently Erbes was also associated with race driver Bob Burman. As the story goes Erbes & Burman in June 1914 had an agreement with the Wisconsin Motor Company to build 7 racing motors based on the Peugeot that won the Indy that year with Burman's improvements. The motors were to be used in the 1915 racing season. Erbes claimed his motors ended up with Harry Stutz. The two entities battled it out in court in Waterloo, IA the Wisconsin Motor Company claiming Erbes owed them $2,600 and Erbes claiming he was owed $200,000 in lost race earnings. Wisconsin Motor even claimed Erbes was negoiating with Duesenberg to build the motors. The case lasted well into 1917-18 with Erbes finally loosing. Burman was long gone as he died racing in April of 1916.

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