Rochester Duesenberg Engine,Clutch,Gearbox

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21 Dec 2010 00:54 #18845 by silverghost
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Rochester Duesenberg Engine, Clutch, Gearbox + racing radiator.

I was just contacted by an old Antique car friend of my Late 92 year old father today.
In our conversation he said that he would like to sell a few items in his garages~

He claims he has a 4 cylinder Rochester~Duesenberg Racing Engine with clutch, gearbox & radiator that he has owned for 60 years.
It was supposedly taken out of a small race car in the Main Line Philadelphia area.
He stated it is a walking-beam style engine.
It is said to be in complete condition ! ?

I plan on going to look at this, as well as some other items that he wishes to "Clean-Out ! "
I have not inspected it as of today~

My questions to the forum are~~~
Are there any really good photos of these engines on the web ? I have not spotted any !

How can I properly ID this engine as a Rochester-Duesenberg RACING engine?
What should I be looking for here ?

Are there any casting , or serial numbers & if so~~~ Where are they located ?

These engines were also used in some odd brand autos~~Argonne, Roamer, Revere, Kenworthey, and Biddle (Made in Philadelphia !) & some others~
But NOT in racing form ~~ Am I correct ?

Would the racing version be of all aluminum construction while the standard outomobile unit have a cast-iron block/head unit on an aluminum crankcase ?
Did the racing version have additional valves; 16 vs 8 ?

I know very little about these early "walking- beam" engines. I did see one years ago at the Brass In Bucks County Meet and Tour in Doylestown PA a number of years ago in a restored early Duesenberg torpedo-style former Indy racing car.
Sadly I do not remember very much about it .

I really have no use and have little interest in it myself ~

I have no idea what it may be worth; nor what to offer the seller ?

It may possibly make a great museum display engine?
If it is indeed a vintage racing engine perhapps some vintage racer may like it also?

Does anyone here have an interest in this engine ?

I will inspect it, and hopefully take some digital photos after the New Year !
We shall see what he does indeed have there.

Any information on how to identify,or photos of similar existing engines, greatly appreciated~~

Thank's

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04 Feb 2011 18:36 #19148 by silverghost
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UPDATE:

I have not been able to actually view this engine in person as of 2/4/11 as there is now a three foot drift of snow that has turned into hard ice blocking the garage doors where the engine is stored.

The engine is safe & is not going anywhere soon !

I, and another ACD Club & forum member, plan on inspecting this engine as soon as the Ice & snow clears.

Stay tuned for a photo update !

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13 Feb 2011 23:56 #19235 by Barrie Hutchinson
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A color photo of the Rochester-Duesenberg G-1 engine, left side, plus limited information is contained on page 35 of "The Reunion, Number Two" edited by Dr. John Baeke.

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16 Jul 2011 18:05 #20518 by landmark
landmark replied the topic: Re: Rochester Duesenberg Engine,Clutch,Gearbox

silverghost wrote: Rochester Duesenberg Engine, Clutch, Gearbox + racing radiator.

I was just contacted by an old Antique car friend of my Late 92 year old father today.
In our conversation he said that he would like to sell a few items in his garages~

He claims he has a 4 cylinder Rochester~Duesenberg Racing Engine with clutch, gearbox & radiator that he has owned for 60 years.
It was supposedly taken out of a small race car in the Main Line Philadelphia area.
He stated it is a walking-beam style engine.
It is said to be in complete condition ! ?

I plan on going to look at this, as well as some other items that he wishes to "Clean-Out ! "
I have not inspected it as of today~

My questions to the forum are~~~
Are there any really good photos of these engines on the web ? I have not spotted any !

How can I properly ID this engine as a Rochester-Duesenberg RACING engine?
What should I be looking for here ?

Are there any casting , or serial numbers & if so~~~ Where are they located ?

These engines were also used in some odd brand autos~~Argonne, Roamer, Revere, Kenworthey, and Biddle (Made in Philadelphia !) & some others~
But NOT in racing form ~~ Am I correct ?

Would the racing version be of all aluminum construction while the standard outomobile unit have a cast-iron block/head unit on an aluminum crankcase ?
Did the racing version have additional valves; 16 vs 8 ?

I know very little about these early "walking- beam" engines. I did see one years ago at the Brass In Bucks County Meet and Tour in Doylestown PA a number of years ago in a restored early Duesenberg torpedo-style former Indy racing car.
Sadly I do not remember very much about it .

I really have no use and have little interest in it myself ~

I have no idea what it may be worth; nor what to offer the seller ?

It may possibly make a great museum display engine?
If it is indeed a vintage racing engine perhapps some vintage racer may like it also?

Does anyone here have an interest in this engine ?

I will inspect it, and hopefully take some digital photos after the New Year !
We shall see what he does indeed have there.

Any information on how to identify,or photos of similar existing engines, greatly appreciated~~

Thank's


Hello Brad,

I had never known what the walking beam engine design meant. So I did a little research.
I found a site with a (color) photo of a 1915 Rochester Duesenberg 4 cyl. 16 valve walking beam racing engine.

This photo could be interesting for you, here is the link: http://theoldmotor.com/?s=walking+beam The photo is in middle of the site.

Matt

P.S.: Do you habe purchased the engine?

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06 Oct 2011 21:51 #21158 by silverghost
silverghost replied the topic: Update ~
I have had no additional success contacting the older owner of this engine.
It is said by his older neighbors that he is now ill and, living with his daughter.
I left a note in his mailbox early this summer and have never received any phone calls , nor notes in reply.
I will keep trying to contact them this fall now that I have returned home to PA from a summer long vacation in Ocean City NJ.

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