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27 Jan 2009 22:26 #12571 by West Peterson
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I bought a brand new Canon SLR. This was one of the first outings that I had a chance to play with it. In addition to the lighting being tricky, it was hard to get a shot without people all around.

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26 Jan 2009 23:53 #12558 by Mike Dube
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Hey West,

The Meteor came out pretty good. That wasn't the easiest place lighting-wise to take a picture.

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26 Jan 2009 20:03 #12556 by alsancle
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Notice the different carburetors between the MM and the second set of pictures. The MM has the original large throat UU2s and I believe the second picture is the white truck UUR2 that you can still get new.

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21 Jan 2009 16:32 #12531 by West Peterson
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21 Jan 2009 15:30 #12530 by West Peterson
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Ahhh. At first you confused me because I thought 134 was the car in the background. Then I realize that it's a mirror. <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: -->

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21 Jan 2009 15:09 #12529 by Chris Summers
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The second car is J-134 / replica frame, with a Bob Gassaway-built boattail body, formerly owned by Richard and Linda Kughn.

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21 Jan 2009 13:32 #12525 by West Peterson
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From Paul111.
The first is from J494


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19 Jan 2009 20:28 #12492 by West Peterson
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No. Be sure to put Duesneberg in the subject line.

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19 Jan 2009 14:51 #12487 by paul111
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West - Just wondering if you received the emails.

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16 Jan 2009 01:35 #12452 by West Peterson
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You can e-mail the photo to me and I'll post for you.
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16 Jan 2009 01:04 #12450 by paul111
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Also J491, red figoni and a white 31 boat tail that I have pics of but don't know the J# and can't upload.

West - you can start the list right now if one doesn't exist.

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15 Jan 2009 19:01 #12445 by Chris Summers
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Gary Cooper's SSJ was definitely supercharged by the factory; there is some controversy as to whether the car Clark Gable was loaned (but never owned) had the blower at first or not.

So one SSJ, the Mormon Meteor, and the spare Meteor engine, now probably J-292, definitely had them when new. I believe J-572 had them from new, or at least from its early days, as well. Randy would be able to give you a more definite answer on this than I.

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15 Jan 2009 13:03 #12431 by West Peterson
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So... back to the original question: Is there a list of cars with a dual-carb set-up?

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15 Jan 2009 00:47 #12425 by paul111
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Are you talking about the dual updraughts? I believe J494 had those.

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14 Jan 2009 21:01 #12419 by Chris Summers
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alsancle wrote: I'm just guessing, but I think there were a total of 5 with duals? The two SSJs, the MM, and two spare engines from the MM.


Engine J-572 had dual carbs installed in the 1960s, which would have been before Leo's project as well. That engine came out of the Bohman & Schwartz Convertible Coupe built in 1935 for Serge Mdivani, now owned by Sam & Emily Mann.

Were there two spare engines for the Mormon Meteor?

I've heard it had one, which was probably put into J-292, as A.J. said. There is another, so-called "spare engine" in the ACD Museum. It is very probably not.

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14 Jan 2009 18:50 #12418 by West Peterson
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From what you say, it sounds like pretty much all that we see today are the units that Gephart built. I know that the Deloris Del Rio Murphy Town Car and Arturro Keller's LeGrande phaeton both have (had??) dual carbs. They were both owned by Dick Gold at one time, so I'm not sure if he moved the unit back and forth between cars, or if he installed the set-up on both cars.

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14 Jan 2009 18:38 #12417 by alsancle
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I believe that Leo Gephart's first run of blowers back in the 70s (25 units) were all dual carb. Ted Billing's dual cowl that came out of South America in the early 60s was supposed to have one of the spare engines from the Mormon Meteor. I have a picture of the engine circa 1971 (prior to Leo's project) with the dual carbs. I'm just guessing, but I think there were a total of 5 with duals? The two SSJs, the MM, and two spare engines from the MM.

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14 Jan 2009 16:04 #12412 by Chris Summers
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The convertible coupe you saw has engine J-572 installed (it was originally J-240). Melvin Clemans was the one who put J-572 in the car, and during his ownership the car had dual carburetors with a single manifold; I don't know if he put those on the engine or not. It didn't work too well; supposedly at 85 mph it acted like it was running out of gas.

Nice new toy, West. A substitute for the blue Packard that didn't arrive on Christmas morning?

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14 Jan 2009 12:51 #12409 by West Peterson
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Hi Mike
Yes, I went to Zakira's Garage as well. In fact, we bought the 1911 Regal Underslung that was there.

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14 Jan 2009 03:56 #12405 by Mike Dube
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Hey West, I thought that was you. What did you think about the shop we saw earlier? Some wild stuff there to be sure.

I think the dual carb cars were rare, but like the blowers, a few more exist now than left the factory that way. Hopefully someone will weigh in and enlighten us.

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13 Jan 2009 22:22 #12400 by West Peterson
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This weekend, I visited a collection that had two twin-carbed Duesenbergs. Is there a list of Duesenbergs that have the twin set-up? How many are there?
I understand that the Mormon Meteor's carburetors are different than the others.

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