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02 May 2019 19:59 #37126 by RubyDS
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22 Apr 2019 11:56 #37041 by RubyDS
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JIM.OBRIEN wrote: Hi Ruby,

You are coming along nicely. One comment - the inner CV joint cover need to be rotated. The fill fitting on the left joint should be at the top, just forward of the center line. The cover on the right joint should be just rear of the top center.

The lines for the cross shift are copper lines, you just need the furrels.

All the fittings you are looking for are all readily available from any good supplier supplier, either locally or on line. If you need help let me know.
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Hi Jim,thanks for this response,have you an adress for the fittings to make my gearbox controls lines.

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22 Apr 2019 11:52 #37040 by RubyDS
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Terry Cockerell wrote: Hi Ruby you certainly have come a long way since starting the restoration. Your skills and determination are beyond belief ...................... well done.
I have a question for you, "What is the bolt and lock nut in the middle of the front chassis cross member for ?" "This is immediately in front of the gear box oil pump."
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Hello Terry,

The nut on the front chassis member is not on my car but on a cutomer 810 ,no reason to have this bolt.
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22 Apr 2019 00:13 #37039 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Hi Ruby,

You are coming along nicely. One comment - the inner CV joint cover need to be rotated. The fill fitting on the left joint should be at the top, just forward of the center line. The cover on the right joint should be just rear of the top center.

The lines for the cross shift are copper lines, you just need the furrels.

All the fittings you are looking for are all readily available from any good supplier supplier, either locally or on line. If you need help let me know.
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21 Apr 2019 22:01 #37038 by Terry Cockerell
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Hi Ruby you certainly have come a long way since starting the restoration. Your skills and determination are beyond belief ...................... well done.
I have a question for you, "What is the bolt and lock nut in the middle of the front chassis cross member for ?" "This is immediately in front of the gear box oil pump."
Thanks,
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21 Apr 2019 21:23 - 21 Apr 2019 21:25 #37037 by RubyDS
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19 Dec 2018 21:05 #36170 by RubyDS
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The hose plug on the front

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This one

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And also the two hose from valve block to intake manifold

If anyone have this parts or only the hose plugs i'm interested

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19 Dec 2018 21:01 #36169 by RubyDS
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But for finished my transmission system i have some missing parts

The gearbox vent system

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The epurator hose and plugs

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19 Dec 2018 20:55 - 19 Dec 2018 20:57 #36168 by RubyDS
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More work on transmisson

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10 Dec 2018 13:48 #36112 by RubyDS
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Dynamo and starter motor disassembly

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10 Dec 2018 13:47 #36111 by RubyDS
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And front transmission

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10 Dec 2018 13:46 #36110 by RubyDS
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Front axle parts ready to assemly

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26 Sep 2018 23:04 #35521 by 1748 S
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Thanks Jim. My car has the spring safety loops. They are bent but easy to copy if I need to. Here are the pics of what my front spring and suspension bolt and nut looked like after it ground down on the road.I also included pics comparing the old to the new.

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26 Sep 2018 02:03 - 26 Sep 2018 02:54 #35509 by Terry Cockerell
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Regarding the installation of the safety hoops my Cord which is an early production car had the holes drilled through the suspension arms. When the hoops were fitted the sides of the suspension arms were pulled in a bit consequently water could get into the suspension arms . During the current restoration a lot of rust was removed from inside the arms before the holes were drilled out and sleeved with suitable pipe. As well as restore the car I am doing what I can to conserve it.

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26 Sep 2018 01:50 #35508 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Curt - The hanger rods originally were just rods that were threaded on both ends.

Gary I don't understand your question. If your failure resulted in the spring end and the brake backing plate being ground down then the anger bolt didn't fail, the car lost a wheel.

Regardless you should have the safety lops installed just in case.

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25 Sep 2018 03:11 #35502 by mikespeed35
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Thank you for the suggestions on the Marmon interior Jim, it worked perfectly.
CORDiallyMike

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24 Sep 2018 20:34 #35491 by 1748 S
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last try...

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24 Sep 2018 20:31 #35490 by 1748 S
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hope pics work now..

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24 Sep 2018 17:30 #35485 by 1748 S
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sadly my pics did not load so here is another try.

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24 Sep 2018 17:27 #35484 by 1748 S
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Jim I'm not sure what you are referring to in your last post. But here is the bolts that failed and the damage they did to the spring and maybe the brake backing plate.

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24 Sep 2018 11:46 #35483 by Curt Schulze
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Does Cord use high hex marked head: W. 30, N bolts like Auburn did?

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Be of Good Cheer
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24 Sep 2018 05:52 #35481 by RubyDS
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Hi Jim and Gary,

The front spring hanger rod is just two rod in waiting the correct uppgrade 3/4 rods ;)

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24 Sep 2018 03:25 #35480 by 1748 S
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Upgrading these bolts is a good idea. My car shows the passenger side fell and the spring ground along the road nearly cutting the ends off. I will post pictures tomorrow. Also at one time my car probably lost a wheel on the passenger side too. The bottom of the brake backing plate is also ground off. Last year I purchased the heavy duty bolts and all the cups and special nuts. Glad I did this.

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23 Sep 2018 22:30 - 23 Sep 2018 22:30 #35479 by JIM.OBRIEN
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Hi Youenn,
It looks like you still have the original front spring hanger rod. You need to upgrade these to 3/4" high strength rods. The original ones were not heavy enough to carry the load and will fail. The spring hangers will catch the spring but if the bolt fails at the top, it drops down and digs into the pavement and can spin the car around.
Jim
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23 Sep 2018 21:32 #35477 by 1748 S
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You do wonderful work. Please continue to post pictures so everyone can enjoy.


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23 Sep 2018 19:29 #35474 by RubyDS
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After receipt my new throw out bearing (thanks Jim) i can assembly my engine and gearbox

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And install the new bearing of front axle and add grease nipple.

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11 Sep 2018 14:13 #35393 by RubyDS
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Jim you have a PM

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12 Aug 2018 20:48 #35211 by RubyDS
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Thanks Jim

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12 Aug 2018 20:23 #35210 by JIM.OBRIEN
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I just sent you a PM.

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12 Aug 2018 16:11 - 12 Aug 2018 16:12 #35208 by RubyDS
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Ready to install my gearbox on the engine.........problem!!!!!! the clutch throwout bearing buy whith the car is probably not the correct model,i looking for this parts if anyone have.
And for the clutch axle bearings,the correct number is NB-110?

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26 Jul 2018 12:01 #35063 by Curt Schulze
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I have rear view mirrors like the one in the pix, if you need one.

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26 Jul 2018 09:27 #35062 by Terry Cockerell
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I think the mirror is upside down in the maroon Cord. You should get a better rear view by turning it around. The attached picture is of a very original unrestored Cord.

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26 Jul 2018 03:21 #35061 by 1748 S
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wow the first reverse cluster gear is in bad shape but so is the first reverse slider gear.Are you replacing the gear bushings? Are you hard chroming the shaft the gears ride on??? Sure is plenty of work in these transmissions. I'm machining and rebuilding my trans now as you are.

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25 Jul 2018 07:20 #35058 by RubyDS
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Speedometer in kilometer

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25 Jul 2018 07:17 #35057 by RubyDS
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Marroon 810 gearbox



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25 Jul 2018 07:15 #35056 by RubyDS
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25 Jul 2018 07:11 - 25 Jul 2018 07:14 #35055 by RubyDS
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Yes Johnathan,it's two 810 weschester,i have make a lot of little work on the green one,this car is tested in a french magazine "Retroviseur" this month and i have rebuilt the gearbox of the marroon one,car sold new in France in 1936 with speedometer in kilometer.
For the Soccer it's not my thing............ ;)
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24 Jul 2018 21:47 #35054 by Jonathan Richards
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Greetings , Youenn Perrin , aka RubyDS., You are just having too much fun in your delightfully aged garage/shop in France. A visit to your shop by a Ganges Green Westchester followed by a similar visit by a Rich Maroon Model 810 which appears to be a Westchester as well. Your Custom Beverly is shown lurking in the background as she comes closer and closer to reaching your restoration goals. Keep up the excellent work and the flow of periodic messages to our ACD Club Forum. Oh, yes , congratulations on your Soccer Cup victory if that is your thing. Best Regards, Jonathan Richards #1080 at Chesterfield, Missouri , USA.
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24 Jul 2018 21:24 #35053 by RubyDS
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After a green 810 a few month ago in my workshop this week a maroon 810 B)


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29 Jun 2018 14:20 #34852 by RubyDS
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Ready to instal on front axle

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28 Jun 2018 08:15 #34849 by RubyDS
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27 Jun 2018 18:25 #34846 by 1748 S
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My bearing is a National 7109. These bearings are common in several other cars too.

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27 Jun 2018 16:05 #34845 by RubyDS
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I'm ready to assembly engine and gearbox and i looking for the reference (number)of the bearing at center of the flywheel.

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23 Jun 2018 06:53 #34820 by Terry Cockerell
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Rudy, continuing with the alternative method proposed by Henry Portz you will need spacers between the outer cups.
Mine worked out with the following dimensions. Outside diameter 2.5" Inside diameter 2.125" Width 0.5"

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23 Jun 2018 03:57 #34818 by mikespeed35
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I toured with the Past president of Timken a few years ago and he told me there are alternatives to some of the rear extremely expensive bearings and races as you can see here. A little research is required and a cooperative bearing counter man.
CORDiallyMike

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22 Jun 2018 12:43 #34814 by Thomas Wilcock
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I should have said that Timken # 13890 is the bearing cone.
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22 Jun 2018 12:32 #34813 by RubyDS
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Perfect Terry,

I have cone 13889 and have ordered 4 cup 13830 availlable next week,many thanks

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22 Jun 2018 12:30 #34812 by Thomas Wilcock
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I used the Timken 13835D double row race and Timken 13890 cup. Unlike the original double row race I removed, the new Timken 13835D had holes around the center for lubrication. I drilled the bottom retainer bolt for the bearing housing and installed a grease fitting so that the bearings can be greased occasionally.
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22 Jun 2018 08:26 #34810 by Terry Cockerell
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Rudy the bearing numbers I have listed are.
M28241 / 1R2424 ......... is the needle bearing assembly
138890 .............................. is the taper roller cup
13830 ................................. is the taper roller bearing cone
The outside diameter of the bearing is 2 1/2" which fits inside the outer bearing block.
I can't remember the shaft size of the suspension arm
Any bearing company should be able to readily supply these parts.

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