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Good to hear from you. Well, in a certain way you were resposible for me wanting an Auburn. That ride in your gorgeous Speedster really made me a fan!
I will contact you directly. Best,
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Touching base after a good while of being absent from the forum.
I have been using the Auburn a bit, and getting ready to paint and reupholster it, but before I do it, I want to get it running greatly and find it's missing parts.
The engine sounds great and works almost fine, but it does not give the full power it should. My mechanic went over everything and he is now betting on installing a new set of ignition components, so I am looking for distributor cap, cables, points, condensor and coil, and while at it, I want to find the metallic cover that houses the cables over the spark plugs.
Any leads as to where to find them?
I also need interior door and window handles plus an exhaust cut out valve.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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So, I guess that if I don't take the "traditional" route (personally, I wouldn't like a black car with carmine fenders!) and want to get my car like the one I attached above, I will just have to imagine somebody had that $50 dollar option requested from new.
Thanks for confirming on the blackwalls and possible black top.
I am eager to do the car as I described. Final decission will have to be uphostery... as I think I could have black or the same carmine color... I will have to think about it. Is it known if both were offered? Or should I play it safe and stick to black?
I know it will be too sober... but I have enough color in other cars and no black one (except for a model T).
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One final question: I guess the pinstripe could also be the same contrasting color, carmine in my case, correct? Or do you know what was used as pintstripe color with black and carmine?
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So, from your pic I take it that they were monotone and pinstriped?
What if the car was the Custom model (mine is)? Could it then be two toned? The idea I have of black car with red raised portions could have been offered from new?
I browsed a lot and found the pic I am attaching on the net... no idea whose it is. I'd love to get more pics of it... but anyhow, that is exactly the idea I had in mind.... only with chrome wheels and blackwalls. Would such a car have been a possible offering from new?
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You are to "blame" for my love for Auburns. After that one hour drive on your fabulous Speedster, all the way from your place back to Vancouver, I just had to get an Auburn! Best ride of my life!!
Congratulations on your new coupe. Beautiful cars! And with the quality of work you do at your place, I am sure it will soon turn into one of the nicest coupes around.
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Answers 2 and 3 are very clear.
On paint, what I am trying to figure out is if painting it as the Speedsters were, in a basic color with all the raised bolsters or mouldings in the contrasting color, would be appropiate or correct for a cabriolet.
I sent you a PM for some parts I need, hoping you can help me with those.
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#2 I would say 98% of the cars of that era came with black walls. White walls were available, but as you mentioned they wee white walls on both sides. Single sided white walls were not available until 1939. I share your opinion that the white walls might detract from the chrome wire wheels.
#3 Yes black tops were available.
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Guys, here are 3 questions on the car's correct general aspect: I am planning on doing a cosmetic restoration soon. It looks good on pics but remember pics help... plus I would like to return the car to a correct pattern for an 8-100A.
1. I am thinking of doing the car in black and carmine again, but painting the body black but all of the "raised" areas or mouldings in carmine. Most Speedster I have seen are done that way. But before I do it I would like to ask if that was a correct possible way of having a cabriolet originally in 1932.
2. Also, are blackwalls a correct item? Since it has chrome wheels (gorgeous, by the way), I believe it already woudl have enough "sparkIe" to it. I understand most cars now have and probably were delivered with dual sided whitewalls, but I would love to know if blackwalls were available.
3. Finally... was a black top acceptable? Or should I plan on leaving the tan top?
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It looks as if you are really enjoying it.
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Just as Mace mentioned on the phone, that "Doc's lake" event tag has helped us establish more accurately which car we are talking about and some if it's history. He suggested I should not remove the plaque... to which I said I would but promised to keep the plaque but attached with a magnet to the dashboard, not permanently attached as it is now... which by the way was set there to cover a hole that probably should not exist and I will eventually correct.
And just as "Doc's lake" may be a landmark in the area the car was originally from, I am attaching a few pics of the car with a couple of the many landmarks we have here in Queretaro... an acueduct built around 1730 to bring water to the city, and the old train station, built in 1903. Queretaro never was a very important city... therefore the size of the station.
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This is what I got on the car's story:
- The car was sold originally in Omaha, Nebraska (that is what Mace thinks) and stayed there till 1959-1961 when it was advertised for sale for $750.
- It went to NW Illinois, where it was restored. Mace does not remember the place but it was apparently done by a man with one arm only. The car was apparently painted in an incorrect pattern for a 8-100A convertible, with the contrasting color on the top.
- From there, the story is not quite clear or better said, quite confussing, but he mentions the car was in Hawaii apparently on two different ocassions, having being sold by a dealer in Colorado.
- According to Randy, it was also in California in the late sixties and auctioned by RM in 1984.
- Mace said the car was at some point owned by somebody in Kentucky.
- Then, by Glenn Church from Illinois. Mace buys the car from the estate of Glenn Church who had been dead for 11 years. That should have been around 1994 and he had it for about 5-6 years. During his ownership, he had all the mechanical components done (engine, axles, driveshaft, he balanced the wood wheels and got dual sided whitewall tires, etc.) by Freemont auto in Freemont, OH. He mentions the car was very complete and very correct, including carburator and fuel pump, and it could ride to about 70-75 mph with great ease and no vibration on the wheels. By that time, the car had vinyl interior with good craftmanship on the seat but not on the doors.
- He sells the car around 2000, to Tim Wilson who is a mechanic and used and enjoyed the car in old car rallies. During his ownership he installed a new clutch , new wood on the rumble seat , built linkage for the pilot ray lights and had the radiator recored. Tim also had a new top made plus new upholstery, unfortunately in vynil again. He installed the beautiful chrome wire wheels and Firestone one sided whitewall tires. He had the car for around 13 years and sells it due to a divorce.
- He sells it to Jose Rivero Colado in 2013, who imports it to Mexico and in 2016 he gives it as payment for another classic to a friend of mine from whom I get it in September 2016.
If somebody can complement the story, I would appreciate it.
No wonder that with all the work that Mace had done plus Tim's expertise as a mechanic, the car really rides great. I only need to get the dual ratio working and find the exhaust cut out for it.
I plan to do a cosmetic restoration on it, maintain the black with carmine combination but change the pattern (I need to find out the correct way that was used on 8-100A... any help will be appreciated).
I also intend to do leather upholstery (I am debating with myself over using leather matching the carmine color or black, and see if i can find a snakeskin pattern leather, as I read in some other posts that it was used by Auburn in those years).
Enough for now... thanks!
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He also confirmed that the dual ratio axle worked when he had it, so it shouldn't be too complicated to get it running again. I will get to that soon.
What I did try to do is to look into the exhaust valve, but unfortunately there is non. It was removed at some point, so I have to look for one also.
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I can see so far that this is a great club with lots of support... and a great forum. Thank you guys!
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Thanks a lot for the information! I will contact mr. Wilson and see if he can share whatever he knows on the history of the car.
I sincerely appreciate your help,
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I intend to keep the chromed wire wheels with the car, as they are really gorgeous, but perhaps with black walls as I think the chrome will give the car enough sparkle, if that is the word (sorry, I am not native in English). I will keep the wood wheels just in case.
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The title, dated 2006 is to the name of: Timothy C Wilson, in Cape May, NJ,, and it was imported into Mexico in 2013, so, yes!... it has clearly traveled around!
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Does anybody reproduce the Limousine body co. tag? I just became a member of the ACD club, but have no info or directory yet.
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I live in Mexico, and bought the car down here, but it was imported from the US a few years ago. The car seems to have been an older restoration in the US to which chrome wheels have been added, instead of the wood wheels, which I also got with the car. It is a black with carmine red car, but I am not sure if it is painted in the correct pattern. Anyhow, I have some thoughts about leaving the color combination but redo it in a different pattern and add blackwalls and a black top, if all of that was an available combination, as I want to do the car as correct as possible.
The car’s data plate says:
Model 8-100-A
Ser. No. 3879F
Engine No. GU67778
Unfortunately there is no Limousine body data plate
There is a plate affixed to the dashboard that says “Welcome to Doc’s lake / June 22-23 1963 / Iowa region C.C.C.A.”
Being an old “collector” car, I would like to ask if anybody knows anything about it, perhaps something on it’s prior history?
I have several questions, but for starters, I would like know recommended sources for parts. The car is mostly very complete, but I need at least the distributor and cable metallic covers, a set of dashboard pull and switch knobs, wire wheel removal tool, rubber running board covers and surely some regular maintenance items.
Thanks in advance!
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